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World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?

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    Machpants
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    After even Scotland don't want a Scottish one

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/articles/cvgl4zpklxgo

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      To answer the question: yes

      https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/former-wallaby-brett-robinson-wins-race-to-become-most-powerful-man-in-world-rugby-20241114-p5kqhf.html

      27-25 of 53 (who abstained?)

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        Interestingly Benazzi, who is Morrocan, pushed very hard on the 'expanding the game world wide' angle - working on his non big nation background. So that has a lot of appeal. But I think that Robinson pushed more on the 'sort out what we have got' angle, including 'spectacle/watchability' and financial stability. With the mess so many Unions and Clubs are ATM I think getting the house in order is a greater priority than 'spreading the game'. Spreading the game costs money that rugby doesn't really have, outside France and corporate backed Japanese clubs

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          Has to be good news for Australia and NZ. Especially when it comes to law trials, speeding up the game etc.

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            Honestly wouldn't have minded Benazzi, for whatever reason I think he's less likely to be captured by the establishment (perhaps because he is Moroccan) but am pleased Robinson got it.

            In all honesty I reckon they missed a trick with Pichot.

            This does beg the question as to how many Tests the All Blacks will be playing in Montevideo, Vancouver and Tblisi now to pay for the votes ...

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            • boobooB booboo

              Honestly wouldn't have minded Benazzi, for whatever reason I think he's less likely to be captured by the establishment (perhaps because he is Moroccan) but am pleased Robinson got it.

              In all honesty I reckon they missed a trick with Pichot.

              This does beg the question as to how many Tests the All Blacks will be playing in Montevideo, Vancouver and Tblisi now to pay for the votes ...

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              @booboo said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

              Honestly wouldn't have minded Benazzi, for whatever reason I think he's less likely to be captured by the establishment (perhaps because he is Moroccan) but am pleased Robinson got it.

              In all honesty I reckon they missed a trick with Pichot.

              This does beg the question as to how many Tests the All Blacks will be playing in Montevideo, Vancouver and Tblisi now to pay for the votes ...

              Is Robinson our puppet? 🙂

              Benazzi may be Morrocan, but he's also French and NH so I'm not as confident as you that he wouldn't have been captured by the establishment.

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                @booboo said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                Honestly wouldn't have minded Benazzi, for whatever reason I think he's less likely to be captured by the establishment (perhaps because he is Moroccan) but am pleased Robinson got it.

                In all honesty I reckon they missed a trick with Pichot.

                This does beg the question as to how many Tests the All Blacks will be playing in Montevideo, Vancouver and Tblisi now to pay for the votes ...

                Is Robinson our puppet? 🙂

                Benazzi may be Morrocan, but he's also French and NH so I'm not as confident as you that he wouldn't have been captured by the establishment.

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                @Nepia said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                @booboo said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                Honestly wouldn't have minded Benazzi, for whatever reason I think he's less likely to be captured by the establishment (perhaps because he is Moroccan) but am pleased Robinson got it.

                In all honesty I reckon they missed a trick with Pichot.

                This does beg the question as to how many Tests the All Blacks will be playing in Montevideo, Vancouver and Tblisi now to pay for the votes ...

                Is Robinson our puppet? 🙂

                Benazzi may be Morrocan, but he's also French and NH so I'm not as confident as you that he wouldn't have been captured by the establishment.

                We control World Rugby ...

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                  well
                  interesting
                  a slight glimmer of hope
                  wish robinson good luck
                  the battle of the football codes is probably more instense in australia than in any other country, so i think he knows what he has to do to move the game forward
                  just a question of whether he can cast some of the dinosaur stuff aside and actually do it
                  tough job

                  liked benazzi as a player, but in this position, he'd be a claytons frenchman
                  if they were going to go that way, pichot would have been the man, liked him as a player too

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                  • M Machpants

                    Interestingly Benazzi, who is Morrocan, pushed very hard on the 'expanding the game world wide' angle - working on his non big nation background. So that has a lot of appeal. But I think that Robinson pushed more on the 'sort out what we have got' angle, including 'spectacle/watchability' and financial stability. With the mess so many Unions and Clubs are ATM I think getting the house in order is a greater priority than 'spreading the game'. Spreading the game costs money that rugby doesn't really have, outside France and corporate backed Japanese clubs

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                    @Machpants said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                    Interestingly Benazzi, who is Morrocan, pushed very hard on the 'expanding the game world wide' angle - working on his non big nation background. So that has a lot of appeal. But I think that Robinson pushed more on the 'sort out what we have got' angle, including 'spectacle/watchability' and financial stability. With the mess so many Unions and Clubs are ATM I think getting the house in order is a greater priority than 'spreading the game'. Spreading the game costs money that rugby doesn't really have, outside France and corporate backed Japanese clubs

                    House in order is the best approach while getting the game right that will appeal to non rugby countries as well as keeping the game a spectacle and part of the fabric of traditional rugby countries.

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                      To answer the question: yes

                      https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/former-wallaby-brett-robinson-wins-race-to-become-most-powerful-man-in-world-rugby-20241114-p5kqhf.html

                      27-25 of 53 (who abstained?)

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                      @booboo I am pleasantly surprised by this. Hopefully we will see a bit of change in how the game is run with the players coming first, then fans second, much more common sense and the sandwiches and warm beer brigand having to accept some long overdue changes.

                      The game has been run by well-meaning reactionaries for too long.

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                        for those who dont know who benazzi is
                        he had a match winning try disallowed in WC95 semi vs SA
                        monsoon game, he definitely scored imo
                        no tmo in those days
                        would have meant a NZ v france final, and whole different rugby history
                        i wasn't concerned at the time, thought we were easily good enough to beat anyone

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                          I read that Benazzi didn't get the Rugby Africa votes, so his Moroccan ancestry didn't help.

                          The other positions for the Executive Board are also interesting:

                          High Performance Union (North) (x2)
                          Susan Carty (Ireland) 46 (elected)
                          Richard Collier-Keywood (Wales) 24
                          Jonathan Webb (England) 29 (elected)

                          High Performance Union (South) (x2)
                          Mark Alexander (South Africa) 34 (elected)
                          Bart Campbell (New Zealand) 31 (elected)
                          John Eales (Australia) 19
                          Agustín Pichot (Argentina) 18

                          Non-High-Performance Union (x1)
                          Sally Dennis (Canada) 28 (elected)
                          Tuilaepa Dr Sailele Malielegaoi (Samoa) 5
                          Sebastian Piñeyrúa (Uruguay) 18

                          Regional Association (x1)
                          Qais Al-Dhalai (Asia Rugby) 15
                          Herbert Mensah (Rugby Africa) 21 (elected)
                          Richard Sapias (Oceania Rugby) 15

                          Vice-Chair vote
                          Mark Alexander (South Africa) 15
                          Susan Carty (Ireland) 14
                          Jonathan Webb (England) 23 (elected)

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                          • M mohikamo

                            for those who dont know who benazzi is
                            he had a match winning try disallowed in WC95 semi vs SA
                            monsoon game, he definitely scored imo
                            no tmo in those days
                            would have meant a NZ v france final, and whole different rugby history
                            i wasn't concerned at the time, thought we were easily good enough to beat anyone

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                            Billy Webb
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                            @mohikamo said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                            for those who dont know who benazzi is
                            he had a match winning try disallowed in WC95 semi vs SA
                            monsoon game, he definitely scored imo
                            no tmo in those days
                            would have meant a NZ v france final, and whole different rugby history
                            i wasn't concerned at the time, thought we were easily good enough to beat anyone

                            It certainly was close.
                            Having watched that game and that incident a few times - not sure whether he did or did not score.

                            Unlike Reuben Kruger in the final though :face_with_tongue:

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                              @mohikamo said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                              for those who dont know who benazzi is
                              he had a match winning try disallowed in WC95 semi vs SA
                              monsoon game, he definitely scored imo
                              no tmo in those days
                              would have meant a NZ v france final, and whole different rugby history
                              i wasn't concerned at the time, thought we were easily good enough to beat anyone

                              It certainly was close.
                              Having watched that game and that incident a few times - not sure whether he did or did not score.

                              Unlike Reuben Kruger in the final though :face_with_tongue:

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                              @Billy-Webb said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                              @mohikamo said in World rugby chair from the SH for the first time?:

                              for those who dont know who benazzi is
                              he had a match winning try disallowed in WC95 semi vs SA
                              monsoon game, he definitely scored imo
                              no tmo in those days
                              would have meant a NZ v france final, and whole different rugby history
                              i wasn't concerned at the time, thought we were easily good enough to beat anyone

                              It certainly was close.
                              Having watched that game and that incident a few times - not sure whether he did or did not score.

                              Unlike Reuben Kruger in the final though :face_with_tongue:

                              Kruger didn't score ... it's not on the score sheet ...

                              As for Benazzi, agree it was not "clear and obvious". I recall he talked about it afterward (press conference?) and kind of played it down. Said something like "it was 'this' close".

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