All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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@gt12 The last 20 minutes disappointing, no doubt.
On the other hand against a good SA side players like Williams, Vaai, Sititi, Ratima did real well, even exceeded expectations.
In hindsight perhaps even more new players like Perofeta, Love, Proctor, Sotutu should have been tested.
Certainly Caketin 2 feels like a senior send off
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Certainly Caketin 2 feels like a senior send off
Caketin 2: Wheelchairs of Destiny.
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I'll get my coat
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
I'll get my coat
nah screw it I'll run a poll! See where the majority are
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 agree mate, although it maybe fact, I can never accept where we lose a few tests in year as better than OK!
Not saying I don't understand the reality or anything, just how I always feel, any loss is not end of the world, but disappointing none the less.
One of reasons I don't go with the lets bring in all the young uns for the future, these are all still test matches!The results are disappointing because he keeps selecting the same underperforming players with the same results, and won't give form SR players a proper trial run. And undeserving Saders homeboys to bulk out the squad
@canefan RD ride the pine refresh, super sub
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529236/all-blacks-v-australia-has-robertson-missed-an-opportunity
A hopefully healthy Ethan Blackadder on the blind and Will Jordan transitioning to fullback….
I can’t wait til @Bones reads this article
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
That summarises my pissed-off feeling too. I think there's a real risk we'll have the worst of both worlds - wasted a year of potential development and lost a heap of games.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529236/all-blacks-v-australia-has-robertson-missed-an-opportunity
A hopefully healthy Ethan Blackadder on the blind and Will Jordan transitioning to fullback….
I can’t wait til @Bones reads this article
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
hopefully healthy
"Hopefully Healthy" sounds like a good moniker for Blackadder
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Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.
I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !
Game fucken on !!!!!!
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Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.
I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !
Game fucken on !!!!!!
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.
I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !
Game fucken on !!!!!!
Enjoy
The steak
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Exits will be interesting in this game. Something we have been unable to nail so far.
BB can be flakey with his exits. Has TJ managed a single box kick that hasn't been charged down in the RC? There is no Jordy there to offer support.
Our exit strategy is quite predictable based on those stats.
Do we have the tight five to smash our way out of the 22? Based on the metres per carry of our starting tight forwards I would say no.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.
I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !
Game fucken on !!!!!!
Enjoy
The steak
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.
I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !
Game fucken on !!!!!!
Enjoy
The steak
I’ve shared some beer porn on the beer page, my latest one is outstanding
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
I think the majority of us were kind of expecting some kind of mass upheaval and innovation with the appointment of razor ,
But maybe we brought the hype got him totally wrong , I mean on reflection were the crusaders that innovative, or did they just do the basics better than their opposition?
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
I think the majority of us were kind of expecting some kind of mass upheaval and innovation with the appointment of razor ,
But maybe we brought the hype got him totally wrong , I mean on reflection were the crusaders that innovative, or did they just do the basics better than their opposition?
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
I think the majority of us were kind of expecting some kind of mass upheaval and innovation with the appointment of razor ,
But maybe we brought the hype got him totally wrong , I mean on reflection were the crusaders that innovative, or did they just do the basics better than their opposition?
Ruthless, played well as a team, never surrendered. Perhaps O'Gara added the innovation.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
I think the majority of us were kind of expecting some kind of mass upheaval and innovation with the appointment of razor ,
But maybe we brought the hype got him totally wrong , I mean on reflection were the crusaders that innovative, or did they just do the basics better than their opposition?
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
But maybe we brought the hype got him totally wrong , I mean on reflection were the crusaders that innovative, or did they just do the basics better than their opposition?
Sam Whitelock was an excellent coach
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
I think the majority of us were kind of expecting some kind of mass upheaval and innovation with the appointment of razor ,
But maybe we brought the hype got him totally wrong , I mean on reflection were the crusaders that innovative, or did they just do the basics better than their opposition?
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
We only just lost to a good SA side.
The only bad loss being Argentina I
I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?Then I'm in the minority.
The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.
Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.
That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.
#metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out
I think the majority of us were kind of expecting some kind of mass upheaval and innovation with the appointment of razor ,
But maybe we brought the hype got him totally wrong , I mean on reflection were the crusaders that innovative, or did they just do the basics better than their opposition?
Yeah, the last sentence, and the lack of strong competition in recent seasons.
The Canes and Blues have both improved massively since getting new coaches in.
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I thought the Crusaders got away with a lot of professional fouls under Robertson and Ryan - taking their play to the edge. Maybe it flys under the NZ teams giving the dominant team the benefit of the doubt but at test level the refs aren't buying it.
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Exits will be interesting in this game. Something we have been unable to nail so far.
BB can be flakey with his exits. Has TJ managed a single box kick that hasn't been charged down in the RC? There is no Jordy there to offer support.
Our exit strategy is quite predictable based on those stats.
Do we have the tight five to smash our way out of the 22? Based on the metres per carry of our starting tight forwards I would say no.
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Exits will be interesting in this game. Something we have been unable to nail so far.
BB can be flakey with his exits. Has TJ managed a single box kick that hasn't been charged down in the RC? There is no Jordy there to offer support.
Our exit strategy is quite predictable based on those stats.
Do we have the tight five to smash our way out of the 22? Based on the metres per carry of our starting tight forwards I would say no.
I’d love to see the kick metre stats on those exits
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Exits will be interesting in this game. Something we have been unable to nail so far.
BB can be flakey with his exits. Has TJ managed a single box kick that hasn't been charged down in the RC? There is no Jordy there to offer support.
Our exit strategy is quite predictable based on those stats.
Do we have the tight five to smash our way out of the 22? Based on the metres per carry of our starting tight forwards I would say no.
I’d love to see the kick metre stats on those exits
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Exits will be interesting in this game. Something we have been unable to nail so far.
BB can be flakey with his exits. Has TJ managed a single box kick that hasn't been charged down in the RC? There is no Jordy there to offer support.
Our exit strategy is quite predictable based on those stats.
Do we have the tight five to smash our way out of the 22? Based on the metres per carry of our starting tight forwards I would say no.
I’d love to see the kick metre stats on those exits
Am not sure I would.
