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Black Caps tour of India - 2024

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  • MN5M MN5

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

    Santner as our third highest scorer is slightly sobering.

    He’s an occasionally effective specialist low order batsman nowadays

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

    Santner as our third highest scorer is slightly sobering.

    He’s an occasionally effective specialist low order batsman nowadays

    In India more so a batsman than a bowler, either way right now I will take any runs we can get

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      They've really done a number on this pitch. It has little cut marks on it, almost like the machine they use on golf greens. I'm sure they've done it to slow the pitch down, to create variable bounce and to encourage it to break up faster

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        Can't blame a number 10 for that, but looks to me like a pitch you have to force yourself to play forward on regardless of instincts, unless it's dropped really short.

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          About 150 runs short, but maybe we'll be lucky.

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            My question who is going to bowl India out cheaply
            ORourke will be a danger maybe Patel our attack is weak.
            Henry being out hurts us.

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              Those two only. Southee won't do much.

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                Can't blame a number 10 for that, but looks to me like a pitch you have to force yourself to play forward on regardless of instincts, unless it's dropped really short.

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                @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

                Can't blame a number 10 for that, but looks to me like a pitch you have to force yourself to play forward on regardless of instincts, unless it's dropped really short.

                Yep you are spot on there that is exactly what you have to do to survive.

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                  Philips will have to redeem himself with a decent wicket haul. And it Mitch and Ravindra can get it to move, who knows? But I see us well on the back foot now. We may have just surrendered the test

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                    Hopefully O’Rourke can get a couple before the end of play.
                    Disappointing we lost 6 wkts for 62 runs..

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      Hopefully O’Rourke can get a couple before the end of play.
                      Disappointing we lost 6 wkts for 62 runs..

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                      @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                      Hopefully O’Rourke can get a couple before the end of play.
                      Disappointing we lost 6 wkts for 65 runs.

                      Not quite as bad as 10 for 46, but still bad...

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                        Hopefully O’Rourke can get a couple before the end of play.
                        Disappointing we lost 6 wkts for 65 runs.

                        Not quite as bad as 10 for 46, but still bad...

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                        @canefan said in Black Caps tour of India:

                        @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                        Hopefully O’Rourke can get a couple before the end of play.
                        Disappointing we lost 6 wkts for 65 runs.

                        Not quite as bad as 10 for 46, but still bad...

                        Yeah but we were 197/4 we had done some hard work and threw it away.

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                          "... before rain stopped play, during the luncheon interval" - 12th Man.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @canefan said in Black Caps tour of India:

                            @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                            Hopefully O’Rourke can get a couple before the end of play.
                            Disappointing we lost 6 wkts for 65 runs.

                            Not quite as bad as 10 for 46, but still bad...

                            Yeah but we were 197/4 we had done some hard work and threw it away.

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                            @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                            @canefan said in Black Caps tour of India:

                            @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                            Hopefully O’Rourke can get a couple before the end of play.
                            Disappointing we lost 6 wkts for 65 runs.

                            Not quite as bad as 10 for 46, but still bad...

                            Yeah but we were 197/4 we had done some hard work and threw it away.

                            Totally agree. What a wasted opportunity

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                              259 simply isn't enough, even with the benefit of not having to bat last.

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                                Latham, Young, Ravindra and Santner looked decent.

                                Most of the other guys were flailing around - even though Devon got runs.

                                Our spinners are unlikely to be good enough to run through the Indians like Sundar did to us, so unless something odd happens, I think we're likely already cooked.

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                                  Ajaz will need a 10-for again for very few runs...

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                                    Though - Southee takes his traditional early wicket.

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                                      One for not many before stumps is a decent result, keeps the door ajar for us but we'll need to come out strong tomorrow morning

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                                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                        The joys of fielding a Test number 6 with a batting average of 35.

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                                        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                        The joys of fielding a Test number 6 with a batting average of 35.

                                        Nothing wrong with a test average of 35 at number 6. That isn't the problem. The fact that he's averaging sub-20 for the last year, , and been poor in Asia is.

                                        I really like Blundell's batting. But .... it's time. New keeper for England series IMO. Got to keep re-newing this jaded team.

                                        Fletcher and Cleaver had purple patches/domestic peaks that tailed off a season or 2 ago. Looks like they may suffer from bad timing. Mitch Hay in pole position, a bit lucky in his timing, probably a bit earlier than is ideal. But is mainly a selection call that needs to be made to keep the over-32 year olds cohort on their toes and hungry , rather than pressure from player(s) below.

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                                        • RapidoR Rapido

                                          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                          The joys of fielding a Test number 6 with a batting average of 35.

                                          Nothing wrong with a test average of 35 at number 6. That isn't the problem. The fact that he's averaging sub-20 for the last year, , and been poor in Asia is.

                                          I really like Blundell's batting. But .... it's time. New keeper for England series IMO. Got to keep re-newing this jaded team.

                                          Fletcher and Cleaver had purple patches/domestic peaks that tailed off a season or 2 ago. Looks like they may suffer from bad timing. Mitch Hay in pole position, a bit lucky in his timing, probably a bit earlier than is ideal. But is mainly a selection call that needs to be made to keep the over-32 year olds cohort on their toes and hungry , rather than pressure from player(s) below.

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                                          @Rapido said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                          The joys of fielding a Test number 6 with a batting average of 35.

                                          > Nothing wrong with a test average of 35 at number 6. That isn't the problem. The fact that he's averaging sub-20 for the last year, , and been poor in Asia is.

                                          I really like Blundell's batting. But .... it's time. New keeper for England series IMO. Got to keep re-newing this jaded team.

                                          Fletcher and Cleaver had purple patches/domestic peaks that tailed off a season or 2 ago. Looks like they may suffer from bad timing. Mitch Hay in pole position, a bit lucky in his timing, probably a bit earlier than is ideal. But is mainly a selection call that needs to be made to keep the over-32 year olds cohort on their toes and hungry , rather than pressure from player(s) below.

                                          Yeah generally your number six batsman is a keeper or an all rounder ( all rounder in the genuine sense or in an occasionally bowls so we’ll call him an all rounder in a New Zealand sense )

                                          35 is very typical, again provided they do something else too.

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