Black Caps tour of India - 2024
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Jadeja has a crazy first class batting record. A triple ton to his name.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. He’d be the best all rounder of all time if he managed that at test level.
@MN5 He'd still be a fair way short of Sir Garfield's batting average, which barring Bradman is among the best ever.
And Gary opened the bowling, then came bck to bowl both left arm orthodox and chinamen. Extraordinary.
I don't know why more modern bowlers don't try this. I don't see why Tim Southee couldn't bowl some decent part time spin. Plenty of batsmen can. He should be at least as good as Joe Root.
Lack of innovative thinking!
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@MN5 He'd still be a fair way short of Sir Garfield's batting average, which barring Bradman is among the best ever.
And Gary opened the bowling, then came bck to bowl both left arm orthodox and chinamen. Extraordinary.
I don't know why more modern bowlers don't try this. I don't see why Tim Southee couldn't bowl some decent part time spin. Plenty of batsmen can. He should be at least as good as Joe Root.
Lack of innovative thinking!
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of India:
@__MN5 He'd still be a fair way short of Sir Garfield's batting average__, which barring Bradman is among the best ever.
And Gary opened the bowling, then came bck to bowl both left arm orthodox and chinamen. Extraordinary.
I don't know why more modern bowlers don't try this. I don't see why Tim Southee couldn't bowl some decent part time spin. Plenty of batsmen can. He should be at least as good as Joe Root.
Lack of innovative thinking!
Yes but he’d have a much better bowling average to even it out.
As it is I reckon Imran compares most favourably with Sobers.
Sobers was one of the best batsmen ever but merely a ‘good’ bowler. Same as Kallis
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Well done Santner, that is some effort. Nice comeback from all the criticism on here ( holds hand up surreptitiously)
What has happened to India ? This mighty side is being dealt to by a pace bowler a bit past his best, a part timer and a full timer who hasn’t been able to buy a wicket in ages.
Crickets a funny game….
And as I ramble Santner gets SEVEN !!!
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Chris Ye of little faith! Pressure is a funny thing and after the first test all of the pressure is on India. You would expect them to score 400, but you also would expect them to score more than 46 in the first test
We will see my money is on a big Indian score
With Gill and Washington they are a much stronger batting line up.
They also scored 462 in the 2nd innings this is a typical Indian pitch they will go well on it.@Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Chris Ye of little faith! Pressure is a funny thing and after the first test all of the pressure is on India. You would expect them to score 400, but you also would expect them to score more than 46 in the first test
We will see my money is on a big Indian score
With Gill and Washington they are a much stronger batting line up.
They also scored 462 in the 2nd innings this is a typical Indian pitch they will go well on it.Let the record state that I was right, and you were wrong.
Not sure I would have picked a Santner 7-for though!!
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of India:
@__MN5 He'd still be a fair way short of Sir Garfield's batting average__, which barring Bradman is among the best ever.
And Gary opened the bowling, then came bck to bowl both left arm orthodox and chinamen. Extraordinary.
I don't know why more modern bowlers don't try this. I don't see why Tim Southee couldn't bowl some decent part time spin. Plenty of batsmen can. He should be at least as good as Joe Root.
Lack of innovative thinking!
Yes but he’d have a much better bowling average to even it out.
As it is I reckon Imran compares most favourably with Sobers.
Sobers was one of the best batsmen ever but merely a ‘good’ bowler. Same as Kallis
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:
Santner with a 7-for.
He and Washington come in and get 7 wickets each.
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Latham, Young, Ravindra and Santner looked decent.
Most of the other guys were flailing around - even though Devon got runs.
Our spinners are unlikely to be good enough to run through the Indians like Sundar did to us, so unless something odd happens, I think we're likely already cooked.
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of India:
Our spinners are unlikely to be good enough to run through the Indians like Sundar did to us, so unless something odd happens, I think we're likely already cooked.
@Mitch Santner said in Black Caps tour of India:
GFYS!!!
Well done, Mitch!
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@MN5 Imran never bowled any spin. Sir Gazza's average potentially compromised by bowling enormous variation that no-one else has replicated.
I don't think anyone is close.
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of India:
@MN5 Imran never bowled any spin. Sir Gazza's average potentially compromised by bowling enormous variation that no-one else has replicated.
I don't think anyone is close.
Yeah Imran was closest of the four all rounders of the 80s. Paddles a better bowler but Imran quite a bit better with the bat. Beefy started amazingly but petered out…..and Kapil just played a lot to get what he got.
From what I’ve heard Sobers was an extraordinary batsman but that bowling record ? Ok, very handy for a team to have but really ? 235 wickets in 93 tests ? Chris Martin got 233 in 71…….
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@Steven-Harris said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Bovidae Henry out ..Bugger
Santner in for HEnry not the headline I wanted to see
@nzzp said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Steven-Harris said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Bovidae Henry out ..Bugger
Santner in for HEnry not the headline I wanted to see
Aged well.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Steven-Harris said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Bovidae Henry out ..Bugger
Santner in for HEnry not the headline I wanted to see
Aged well.
@MajorRage said in Black Caps tour of India:
@nzzp said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Steven-Harris said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Bovidae Henry out ..Bugger
Santner in for HEnry not the headline I wanted to see
Aged well.
In fairness if anyone disagreed they would have been laughed out of here
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of India:
@MN5 Imran never bowled any spin. Sir Gazza's average potentially compromised by bowling enormous variation that no-one else has replicated.
I don't think anyone is close.
Yeah Imran was closest of the four all rounders of the 80s. Paddles a better bowler but Imran quite a bit better with the bat. Beefy started amazingly but petered out…..and Kapil just played a lot to get what he got.
From what I’ve heard Sobers was an extraordinary batsman but that bowling record ? Ok, very handy for a team to have but really ? 235 wickets in 93 tests ? Chris Martin got 233 in 71…….
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I live in hope, but I’m not sure how much success our two orthodox spinners will have. Ashwin and Washington bowled with variety, varying their off breaks and even then we were looking good-ish at 4/200.
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of India:
I live in hope, but I’m not sure how much success our two orthodox spinners will have. Ashwin and Washington bowled with variety, varying their off breaks and even then we were looking good-ish at 4/200.
That aged well.
SatNav was zeroing them in. Awesome spell
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@MN5 Little Kane would be a hell of a player if his batting average was a few notches higher, could bowl like Chris Martin - and could chuck in some decent spin as well.
And field like Glenn Phillips!
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of India:
@MN5 Little Kane would be a hell of a player if his batting average was a few notches higher, could bowl like Chris Martin - and could chuck in some decent spin as well.
And field like Glenn Phillips!
Well yeah, Sobers could do it all but he was ‘only’ brilliant at a couple of things
