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World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game

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  • M mohikamo

    yeah a lot of the injuries and f'ing about at scrum time is to give the fat guys a rest
    i heard a top level pro soccer player recently say that a lot of players going down injured in soccer is just to give everyone a rest, and not just to get a free kick or someone YC'd

    players trying to get someone YC'd is an extremly unattractive watch
    in ice hockey you can get binned for enhancement, making it a risky strategy
    the transgressor and the enhancer can both be binned at the same time
    rugby officials would probably only have do that a couple times and most of it would be out of the game

    and here is a radical thought . . . why not penalise the dominant scrum when it turns into a mess
    e.g. anywhere else on the field players going headfirst into the ground is going to get someone RC'd
    a dominant frontrow deliberately forcing the oppostion to collapse has to be dangerous play
    if a team is that dominant the resonsibilty is on them prevent that, not do it!

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    @mohikamo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    yeah a lot of the injuries and f'ing about at scrum time is to give the fat guys a rest
    i heard a top level pro soccer player recently say that a lot of players going down injured in soccer is just to give everyone a rest, and not just to get a free kick or someone YC'd

    players trying to get someone YC'd is an extremly unattractive watch
    in ice hockey you can get binned for enhancement, making it a risky strategy
    the transgressor and the enhancer can both be binned at the same time
    rugby officials would probably only have do that a couple times and most of it would be out of the game

    and here is a radical thought . . . why not penalise the dominant scrum when it turns into a mess
    e.g. anywhere else on the field players going headfirst into the ground is going to get someone RC'd
    a dominant frontrow deliberately forcing the oppostion to collapse has to be dangerous play
    if a team is that dominant the resonsibilty is on them prevent that, not do it!

    You post some good stuff man

    But this ain’t an example of it

    This is some batshit crazy bullshit

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      The Law of Unintended Consequences

      'We need to speed up the game'

      'How about not straight at the line out when the defending team doesn't compete is play on?'

      'Great. Implement it'

      Most defending teams won't go up at a 5m line out as they wait for the attacking catcher to come back to earth so they can execute a legal counter maul

      So there's no onus on the hooker to throw straight which creates a greater chance of securing possession and setting up an impregnable maul

      This has increased the likelihood of the attacking team scoring and because they're in a stronger position (formation wise) more likelihood that the defending team will commit a foul resulting in a Penalty Try and/or YC.

      The review by ref and TMO has actually slowed the game down and made the lineout less of a contest.

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      @MiketheSnow said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

      The Law of Unintended Consequences

      'We need to speed up the game'

      'How about not straight at the line out when the defending team doesn't compete is play on?'

      'Great. Implement it'

      Most defending teams won't go up at a 5m line out as they wait for the attacking catcher to come back to earth so they can execute a legal counter maul

      So there's no onus on the hooker to throw straight which creates a greater chance of securing possession and setting up an impregnable maul

      This has increased the likelihood of the attacking team scoring and because they're in a stronger position (formation wise) more likelihood that the defending team will commit a foul resulting in a Penalty Try and/or YC.

      The review by ref and TMO has actually slowed the game down and made the lineout less of a contest.

      I agree but I’m even more offended by refs just ignoring the fact that the attacking team are getting into position to maul before the hooker has even released the ball, two or three men step outside of the line and circle behind the receiver, what happened to not leaving or joining the lineout until it’s moved off the plane?

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        Machpants
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        Squidge's take on the kick blocking law changes, I didn't wuite understand what the change was, didn't realise about the post/pillar either

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          See this is what I hate about the halfback shit. Mitchell tries to roll it back with his foot, can't reach so rolls it back with his hand until it's out of the ruck, then rolls it into the perfect position with his foot, then puts his hands on it ready to pass, for a few seconds.

          Get rid of this.

          https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/1023522

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            New rules have sped game up and had a very positive effect on the first couple of rounds of Super Rugby. More ball in play players getting very tired and defense ragged in the last 20 minutes.

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              It's noticeable how much slower the game is at Test level comparing SR and the 6N. The referees of the Eng v Scot and Wales v Ire in no hurry to speed up play.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                It's noticeable how much slower the game is at Test level comparing SR and the 6N. The referees of the Eng v Scot and Wales v Ire in no hurry to speed up play.

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                @antipodean said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

                It's noticeable how much slower the game is at Test level comparing SR and the 6N. The referees of the Eng v Scot and Wales v Ire in no hurry to speed up play.

                Unless there is a push from the top to lessen stoppages, and keep the game flowing, it will continue as is

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                • T tubbyj

                  New rules have sped game up and had a very positive effect on the first couple of rounds of Super Rugby. More ball in play players getting very tired and defense ragged in the last 20 minutes.

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                  @tubbyj said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

                  New rules have sped game up and had a very positive effect on the first couple of rounds of Super Rugby. More ball in play players getting very tired and defense ragged in the last 20 minutes.

                  Give it time. Coaches have only had a few games to figure out how to fuck around with it 😉

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                    I like the "no compete" clause for lineouts - as long as the throw is straight enough.

                    Toss numbers-at-lineout while you're at it.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      It's noticeable how much slower the game is at Test level comparing SR and the 6N. The referees of the Eng v Scot and Wales v Ire in no hurry to speed up play.

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                      @antipodean said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

                      It's noticeable how much slower the game is at Test level comparing SR and the 6N. The referees of the Eng v Scot and Wales v Ire in no hurry to speed up play.

                      Northern Hemisphere?

                      I'll be keen to see what refs the Boks get, and whether they have the balls to stop the phat phucks going down for injury every few minutes.

                      As @MN5's favourite player Healy said to Ranatunga: “You don’t get a runner for being an overweight, fat fluffybunny”

                      I agree with Owens and others that ball-in-play time being higher doesn't necessarily mean a better game, but there's also taking the piss.

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                        The sole benefit is 40mins of poor rugby is still more rugby than 30mins.

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          @antipodean said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

                          It's noticeable how much slower the game is at Test level comparing SR and the 6N. The referees of the Eng v Scot and Wales v Ire in no hurry to speed up play.

                          Northern Hemisphere?

                          I'll be keen to see what refs the Boks get, and whether they have the balls to stop the phat phucks going down for injury every few minutes.

                          As @MN5's favourite player Healy said to Ranatunga: “You don’t get a runner for being an overweight, fat fluffybunny”

                          I agree with Owens and others that ball-in-play time being higher doesn't necessarily mean a better game, but there's also taking the piss.

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                          @NTA said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

                          @antipodean said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

                          It's noticeable how much slower the game is at Test level comparing SR and the 6N. The referees of the Eng v Scot and Wales v Ire in no hurry to speed up play.

                          Northern Hemisphere?

                          I'll be keen to see what refs the Boks get, and whether they have the balls to stop the phat phucks going down for injury every few minutes.

                          As @MN5's favourite player Healy said to Ranatunga: “You don’t get a runner for being an overweight, fat fluffybunny”

                          I agree with Owens and others that ball-in-play time being higher doesn't necessarily mean a better game, but there's also taking the piss.

                          It was Haddin who was my less than favourite player but time is healing the wounds.

                          That’s not a bad pun for this early on a Monday morning.

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                            #129

                            Worst rule implementation is no contest at linesout and it doesn’t have to be straight

                            Practically guarantees a try from a 5m lineout

                            75% inside 22m

                            Should be the other way round

                            No contest then it should be measured by a laser

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