Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season
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If we lost to Italy and he stayed in the job, it would show that the NZRU is completely rotten.
I actually think / hope we'll go OK, but that feeling is also very selection dependent. I reserve the right to go full Tim if some of these strange picks continue and we pay the price.
@gt12 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
If we lost to Italy and he stayed in the job, it would show that the NZRU is completely rotten.
I actually think / hope we'll go OK, but that feeling is also very selection dependent. I reserve the right to go full Tim if some of these strange picks continue and we pay the price.
Last time we played Italy, we put 90 on them, so I'd expect I could coach a full strength AB team to beat them.
We beat England (admittedly, at home) with a week's coaching. We should have learned a few things since then and I don't think they've played since, so I'm quietly hopeful about that one.
Japan gave us a scare with a makeshift team a couple of years ago - but, the results of this vintage don't seem as good? England, Italy and Fiji all beat them handily, so surely we've got enough quality in our team to win this one.
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@gt12 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
If we lost to Italy and he stayed in the job, it would show that the NZRU is completely rotten.
I actually think / hope we'll go OK, but that feeling is also very selection dependent. I reserve the right to go full Tim if some of these strange picks continue and we pay the price.
Last time we played Italy, we put 90 on them, so I'd expect I could coach a full strength AB team to beat them.
We beat England (admittedly, at home) with a week's coaching. We should have learned a few things since then and I don't think they've played since, so I'm quietly hopeful about that one.
Japan gave us a scare with a makeshift team a couple of years ago - but, the results of this vintage don't seem as good? England, Italy and Fiji all beat them handily, so surely we've got enough quality in our team to win this one.
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@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
I'd expect I could coach a full strength AB team to beat them.
My motivational speech:
Boys.
It's time.
Go out there and play rugby.see, job done! thirty point win!
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@nzzp Pretty close.
Monday morning meeting.
Just do what fucking Fozzie told you to - go and practice it - I'm off to the pub!
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Just do what fucking Fozzie told you to - go and practice it -
I'mwe're off to the pub!fixed it!
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Italy are weird. They had an appalling world cup, but their home 6-nations results are decent.
@mariner4life Have to admit- I'd paid no attention to them. Yeah - they troubled everyone except Ireland.
But, these Tier 2 teams who seem able to beat others often seem to struggle with our speed of play, so we cannot be living in fear of them.
Let's hope these aren't famous last words!
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@mariner4life Have to admit- I'd paid no attention to them. Yeah - they troubled everyone except Ireland.
But, these Tier 2 teams who seem able to beat others often seem to struggle with our speed of play, so we cannot be living in fear of them.
Let's hope these aren't famous last words!
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@mariner4life Have to admit- I'd paid no attention to them. Yeah - they troubled everyone except Ireland.
But, these Tier 2 teams who seem able to beat others often seem to struggle with our speed of play, so we cannot be living in fear of them.
Let's hope these aren't famous last words!
I'm very confident we'll flog them
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OK, so update below
@Grooter ! No expectations! (edit: no wins expected)
@MN5 @Victor-Meldrew only 1 win for a decent season? Optimistic much???
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OK, so update below
@Grooter ! No expectations! (edit: no wins expected)
@MN5 @Victor-Meldrew only 1 win for a decent season? Optimistic much???
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
OK, so update below
@Grooter ! No expectations! (edit: no wins expected)
@MN5 @Victor-Meldrew only 1 win for a decent season? Optimistic much???
I voted before reading the question properly then couldn’t change it
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@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
OK, so update below
@Grooter ! No expectations! (edit: no wins expected)
@MN5 @Victor-Meldrew only 1 win for a decent season? Optimistic much???
I voted before reading the question properly then couldn’t change it
@MN5 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
OK, so update below
@Grooter ! No expectations! (edit: no wins expected)
@MN5 @Victor-Meldrew only 1 win for a decent season? Optimistic much???
I voted before reading the question properly then couldn’t change it
interesting ... so how many wins for you then?
Edit: this is also the Fern way. Respond without reading. Don't watch the game. Not aimed at you
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@MN5 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
OK, so update below
@Grooter ! No expectations! (edit: no wins expected)
@MN5 @Victor-Meldrew only 1 win for a decent season? Optimistic much???
I voted before reading the question properly then couldn’t change it
interesting ... so how many wins for you then?
Edit: this is also the Fern way. Respond without reading. Don't watch the game. Not aimed at you
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@MN5 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
OK, so update below
@Grooter ! No expectations! (edit: no wins expected)
@MN5 @Victor-Meldrew only 1 win for a decent season? Optimistic much???
I voted before reading the question properly then couldn’t change it
interesting ... so how many wins for you then?
Edit: this is also the Fern way. Respond without reading. Don't watch the game. Not aimed at you
I’d probably go 2…..
and I’m not offended this is aimed at me
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@gt12 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
And if you then start dropping players and sacking coaches because of these delusional expectations you'll rapidly go into a downward spiral where you're trawling Heartland rugby for All Blacks, because everyone at the higher level is a proven failure!
The slipperiest of slopes as used to justify poor coaching and selection.
Equally hopeless is analysis that says - we lost - the coaches are fucking useless. This player made a mistake, we must drop him.
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right? Because the standard you're aspiring to is winning the WPotY - it seems to me that Ardie is the most likely to reach that standard - since he's proven he can do it - no matter how promising Sititi or Sotutu might look.
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right?
It would be sensible, but do this lot have that ability?
I would have thought Razor would have before this year but his feet seem stuck in cement, and Tubby Ryan is probably too busy getting his dong sucked by Shannon while throwing axes at Blues marketing posters, to be effective at anything.
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@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right?
It would be sensible, but do this lot have that ability?
I would have thought Razor would have before this year but his feet seem stuck in cement, and Tubby Ryan is probably too busy getting his dong sucked by Shannon while throwing axes at Blues marketing posters, to be effective at anything.
@Nepia said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right?
It would be sensible, but do this lot have that ability?
I would have thought Razor would have before this year but his feet seem stuck in cement, and Tubby Ryan is probably too busy getting his dong sucked by Shannon while throwing axes at Blues marketing posters, to be effective at anything.
Haven't they just named a Bluesman as their captain for Saturday?
0 Highlanders
1 Crusader
2 Blues
2 Canes
3 ChiefsIn Tubby's starting forward pack.
I expect great things!
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@Nepia said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right?
It would be sensible, but do this lot have that ability?
I would have thought Razor would have before this year but his feet seem stuck in cement, and Tubby Ryan is probably too busy getting his dong sucked by Shannon while throwing axes at Blues marketing posters, to be effective at anything.
Haven't they just named a Bluesman as their captain for Saturday?
0 Highlanders
1 Crusader
2 Blues
2 Canes
3 ChiefsIn Tubby's starting forward pack.
I expect great things!
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Nepia said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right?
It would be sensible, but do this lot have that ability?
I would have thought Razor would have before this year but his feet seem stuck in cement, and Tubby Ryan is probably too busy getting his dong sucked by Shannon while throwing axes at Blues marketing posters, to be effective at anything.
Haven't they just named a Bluesman as their captain for Saturday?
0 Highlanders
1 Crusader
2 Blues
2 Canes
3 ChiefsIn Tubby's starting forward pack.
I expect great things!
A c side for Japan as deflection from the actual point I see Mr marketing man ....
Why can't these guys get Savea back to his Foster form?
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@bayimports said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
I think we've already blown a decent season, could be closer to hitting annus horribilis than a decent season if not careful just based on results. (as we have played well in patches)
most AB losses in a year was 6
1998 was 5
We're at 3, and counting.
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@bayimports said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
I think we've already blown a decent season, could be closer to hitting annus horribilis than a decent season if not careful just based on results. (as we have played well in patches)
most AB losses in a year was 6
1998 was 5
We're at 3, and counting.
What year did we lose 6? I remember 1998, that was so shit it felt like we did nothing but lose
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If we lost to Italy and he stayed in the job, it would show that the NZRU is completely rotten.
I actually think / hope we'll go OK, but that feeling is also very selection dependent. I reserve the right to go full Tim if some of these strange picks continue and we pay the price.
@gt12 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
If we lost to Italy and he stayed in the job, it would show that the NZRU is completely rotten.
I actually think / hope we'll go OK, but that feeling is also very selection dependent. I reserve the right to go full Tim if some of these
strangeone eyed undeserved Saders picks continue and we pay the price.Fixed
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@bayimports said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
I think we've already blown a decent season, could be closer to hitting annus horribilis than a decent season if not careful just based on results. (as we have played well in patches)
most AB losses in a year was 6
1998 was 5
We're at 3, and counting.
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@bayimports said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
I think we've already blown a decent season, could be closer to hitting annus horribilis than a decent season if not careful just based on results. (as we have played well in patches)
most AB losses in a year was 6
1998 was 5
We're at 3, and counting.
Given 1949 shouldn't count for reasons @Bovidae states, 1998, should be that. Its not entirely unthinkable we match 98 if not pass it. Which is my point, we could be in new territory here. Hopefully not of course
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@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Nepia said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right?
It would be sensible, but do this lot have that ability?
I would have thought Razor would have before this year but his feet seem stuck in cement, and Tubby Ryan is probably too busy getting his dong sucked by Shannon while throwing axes at Blues marketing posters, to be effective at anything.
Haven't they just named a Bluesman as their captain for Saturday?
0 Highlanders
1 Crusader
2 Blues
2 Canes
3 ChiefsIn Tubby's starting forward pack.
I expect great things!
A c side for Japan as deflection from the actual point I see Mr marketing man ....
Why can't these guys get Savea back to his Foster form?
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Interesting way to look at this when you have to assign a number.
No matter what glitter you sprinkle on it, it's been a pretty average season. We have played some really good rugby at times, we've also played long periods of absolute dogshit rugby.
We scraped past England at home. Lost to Argentina at home. Lost twice to South Africa away. Scraped past a desperately poor Wallaby team away, then took care of them at home.I am astounded the good will the coaches have been shown given the results. Especially when they can't even fall back on the "building depth and developing new players" lifeline, given the conservative action at the selection table, and the continuity from last year.
If we lose all three big games then i think the end of season review becomes very very uncomfortable for a couple of guys. Lose two of them and there will be clamor for change. Lose one and i think every one at HQ heads in to Christmas feeling ok.
The really interesting scenario is we lose the 3 big games in what ever manner you chose, and then a broken team lose to Italy. That is when you see what an AB crisis looks like.
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lost to Argentina at home.
That's the kicker. Take that out and it's damn near acceptable to date.
