Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@BerniesCorner said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
We have uncovered a lot of new players this year. 2/3 will be a good result.
I think another big improvement has been players live Vaa'i who've come into the team in the last few years maturing,
Think about the tight 5 and the replacements that Fozzie had in his first year.
Now think about the tight 5 Razor has at his disposal (no Whitelock granted) in his first year. And the back ups.
It’s a hell of a platform to build a team around.
@DaGrubster said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@BerniesCorner said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
We have uncovered a lot of new players this year. 2/3 will be a good result.
I think another big improvement has been players live Vaa'i who've come into the team in the last few years maturing,
Think about the tight 5 and the replacements that Fozzie had in his first year.
Now think about the tight 5 Razor has at his disposal (no Whitelock granted) in his first year. And the back ups.
It’s a hell of a platform to build a team around.
To be fair Razor / Ryan has built up the propping depth and Taylor is playing consistently better (but that may a coincidence) and they have also developed or further developed a promising lock or two.
It is in the loose forwards where there is a Jurassic meets Benny Hill situation. -
@DaGrubster said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@BerniesCorner said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
We have uncovered a lot of new players this year. 2/3 will be a good result.
I think another big improvement has been players live Vaa'i who've come into the team in the last few years maturing,
Think about the tight 5 and the replacements that Fozzie had in his first year.
Now think about the tight 5 Razor has at his disposal (no Whitelock granted) in his first year. And the back ups.
It’s a hell of a platform to build a team around.
To be fair Razor / Ryan has built up the propping depth and Taylor is playing consistently better (but that may a coincidence) and they have also developed or further developed a promising lock or two.
It is in the loose forwards where there is a Jurassic meets Benny Hill situation.@nostrildamus said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@DaGrubster said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@BerniesCorner said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
We have uncovered a lot of new players this year. 2/3 will be a good result.
I think another big improvement has been players live Vaa'i who've come into the team in the last few years maturing,
Think about the tight 5 and the replacements that Fozzie had in his first year.
Now think about the tight 5 Razor has at his disposal (no Whitelock granted) in his first year. And the back ups.
It’s a hell of a platform to build a team around.
To be fair Razor / Ryan has built up the propping depth and Taylor is playing consistently better (but that may a coincidence) and they have also developed or further developed a promising lock or two.
It is in the loose forwards where there is a Jurassic meets Benny Hill situation.Razor has inherited it mate.
No problem with that though.
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Nice time to revisit this.
We're heading in to a French game with some belief, and with the tour already a success.
Couple of very different wins, but over all we're doing pretty well
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Nice time to revisit this.
We're heading in to a French game with some belief, and with the tour already a success.
Couple of very different wins, but over all we're doing pretty well
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Nice time to revisit this.
We're heading in to a French game with some belief, and with the tour already a success.
Couple of very different wins, but over all we're doing pretty well
This tour was always going to make or break after an indifferent RC. So far it might be the making of the team in 2025
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Good year for Razor. Some great young players coming through too.
@BerniesCorner said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Good year for Razor. Some great young players coming through too.
Um.
It will be an ok year if we go through unbeaten on this tour.
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Lucky win against England
Good win this morning but Ireland were poor. Dropped a lot of ball and opened the door for us to walk through@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Good win this morning but Ireland were poor. Dropped a lot of ball and opened the door for us to walk throughWins are wins mate. We showed some composure in both, more than can be said for our play during the RC losses vs Argentina and SA. Baby steps
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@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Good win this morning but Ireland were poor. Dropped a lot of ball and opened the door for us to walk throughWins are wins mate. We showed some composure in both, more than can be said for our play during the RC losses vs Argentina and SA. Baby steps
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@canefan yep. We played a lot better this week against the odds.
Relying on the opposition to miss penalty kicks and drop goals is a lucky win.
Delighted though, two from two is a bloody good effort
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@canefan yep. We played a lot better this week against the odds.
Relying on the opposition to miss penalty kicks and drop goals is a lucky win.
Delighted though, two from two is a bloody good effort
The bar is lower right now because we are a long way from the polished article. But we are slowly developing winning habits that weren't there earlier. The boys should take huge heart from today, while still realising they have much to improve
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Nice time to revisit this.
We're heading in to a French game with some belief, and with the tour already a success.
Couple of very different wins, but over all we're doing pretty well
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Nice time to revisit this.
We're heading in to a French game with some belief, and with the tour already a success.
Couple of very different wins, but over all we're doing pretty well
Thought about this today.
Assuming a win against Italy, not being smacked by France would constitute a pass mark for the season.
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Lucky win against England
Good win this morning but Ireland were poor. Dropped a lot of ball and opened the door for us to walk through@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Nah. We were better. Sliding doors. Would have been an unlucky loss. Deserved win.
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@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Nah. We were better. Sliding doors. Would have been an unlucky loss. Deserved win.
@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Nah. We were better. Sliding doors. Would have been an unlucky loss. Deserved win.
An England win would have been lucky IMO. They did not deserve to win this game as they were not dominant up front while their backline was unable to threaten the NZ try line. It's only the poor NZ discipline that kept them in the game.
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@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Nah. We were better. Sliding doors. Would have been an unlucky loss. Deserved win.
@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Nah. We were better. Sliding doors.
Life is so unfair, a win solely due to our superior climate.
It's almost like NH scribes were destined to choke on a giant pie slice of karma. -
I think this is the difference between Kiwi fans and most other sides.
I'm with @booboo re sliding doors in the English game, shit, they created fuck all, got thier try against the run of play, so really were never in it, but were, so we werent lucky to win, they were lucky to be in a position to steal it.
A win is a win, luck, good fortune, whatever, is still a W.
We seem to want to want a comprehensive win every time, regardless of oppostion.
Sure Ireland may have been poor, but this was often the result of the pressure we put on them.
I think some on here, similar to Fozzies time in the saddle, want to find shit to pick holes in everything for this coaching group (granted the media have played thier part) rather than enjoy the win for what it was, an away win over the Irish, that were currently ranked #1.
Sure some of the rugby hasnt been pretty, but fuck, 2 wins away v England then Ireland, that plenty thought we'd lose, sets us up for an epic encounter with France, that if we win, has to set us along the right path after the hiccups earlier in the year.
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@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Nah. We were better. Sliding doors.
Life is so unfair, a win solely due to our superior climate.
It's almost like NH scribes were destined to choke on a giant pie slice of karma.@nostrildamus said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
Nah. We were better. Sliding doors.
Life is so unfair, a win solely due to our superior climate.
It's almost like NH scribes were destined to choke on a giant pie slice of karma.Huh?
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Lucky win against England
Good win this morning but Ireland were poor. Dropped a lot of ball and opened the door for us to walk through@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lucky win against England
They are the best sort of wins.
When the margins in pro sports can be so fine, it’s getting a win like that one that both entertains and also has you smiling afterwards with a sense of relief and jubilation. There’s been so many of them over the years but a few memorable ones:
- 2011 RWC final
- Cardiff win in 04
- Suncorp against the Wallabies in 2008
- Sydney wins in 09 and 10
- that test in Ireland in 2013
- Twickenham in 2014 (and a couple others there too…)
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Agree with TR but I also think that the performance this weekend will be the tipping point of ‘overall heading in the right direction’ versus ‘jury is out’.
If we win this week (and stomp Italy) then all in all this year is a success and we are on the right track.
If we lose in a close one and stomp Italy, then still a good year if we play well.
If France stomps us and we go back to recent style (not offering much in the last 20 etc), then the jury is very much out.
