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All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    A 6-2 split on the England bench in case you were wondering.

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    • BonesB Bones

      Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

      Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

      were you offering that 40% off code again

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

        were you offering that 40% off code again

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        @nzzp said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

        were you offering that 40% off code again

        Only in the final quarter.

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          @sparky who believes they are that good?

          They aren't as shit as being made out on here, but they aren't amazing either.

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          @MajorRage said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @sparky who believes they are that good?

          They aren't as shit as being made out on here, but they aren't amazing either.

          we are strong favourites against England. So there's that - now we have to execute

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            Ruben Love won't be featuring for the ABs:

            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1851341790550589677

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              good, better to keep him playing.

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                Think most of the starting side picks itself. Big question is who takes the last back position I reckon.
                EDG/Taylor/Lomax
                Barrett/Vaa'i
                Sititi/Savea/Cane
                Ratima/?
                J Barrett/Ioane
                Clarke/?/?

                B Barrett and Jordan will take two of those spots, where they play depends on who fills the other spot. Suspect it will be Reece on the right wing, but could easily be Perofeta at 15 or DMac at 10.

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                  I think
                  10 DMac
                  14 Jordan
                  15 BB

                  is the strongest we can put out. Moving BB to 10 weakens 10 and 14 (and is short term). Jordan has his failings, but Reece is really struggling in Tests this year

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                    I'd stick with Jordan at 15, he's the future and offers so much more in attack.
                    McKenzie over Barrett at 10 every day of the week.
                    And I guess Reece, reluctantly - unless Beauden wants a run there? Better in the air than Reece at least...

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      Ruben Love won't be featuring for the ABs:

                      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1851341790550589677

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                      @sparky He's clearly better than Perofeta

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                        I think the 23 will be the below, will be surprised if it isn't.

                        1. EDG
                        2. Taylor
                        3. Lomax
                        4. Barrett (C)
                        5. Va'ai
                        6. Sititi
                        7. Cane
                        8. Savea
                        9. Ratima
                        10. McKenzie
                        11. Clarke
                        12. Barrett
                        13. Ioane
                        14. Jordan
                        15. Barrett
                        16. Aumua
                        17. Williams
                        18. Tosi
                        19. Tuipolotu
                        20. Finau
                        21. Roigard
                        22. Leinert-Brown
                        23. Reece
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                          Liam Napier suggesting it's Beauden at 10. He is usually on the money with his predictions.

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                            Razor is clearly a big Back to the Future fan

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                              Given that McKenzie played the full 80 against Japan, I suspect Barrett will start at 10. I wouldn't have him in the 23 at all, to be honest.

                              Likely Jordan at fullback and either Reece or Tele'a on the wing, but Reece has been given a few opportunities and Tele'a agility might win him the start for this match.

                              Expecting Ratima, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Ioane, Tele'a, Jordan with a bench of Perenara, McKenzie, Lienert-Brown.

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                                I actually like the idea of McKenzie off the bench. If used correctly he could really make a big difference.

                                Unfortunately the other utility back bench role seems to rotate between a guy who never looks good off the bench in ALB and a guy who hasn't been in form in 2 years in Havili.

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                                • Mr FishM Mr Fish

                                  Given that McKenzie played the full 80 against Japan, I suspect Barrett will start at 10. I wouldn't have him in the 23 at all, to be honest.

                                  Likely Jordan at fullback and either Reece or Tele'a on the wing, but Reece has been given a few opportunities and Tele'a agility might win him the start for this match.

                                  Expecting Ratima, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Ioane, Tele'a, Jordan with a bench of Perenara, McKenzie, Lienert-Brown.

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                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  Given that McKenzie played the full 80 against Japan, I suspect Barrett will start at 10. I wouldn't have him in the 23 at all, to be honest.

                                  Likely Jordan at fullback and either Reece or Tele'a on the wing, but Reece has been given a few opportunities and Tele'a agility might win him the start for this match.

                                  Expecting Ratima, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Ioane, Tele'a, Jordan with a bench of Perenara, McKenzie, Lienert-Brown.

                                  You wouldn't have Mckenzie in the 23 at all? Who covers 10?

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                                    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                    Given that McKenzie played the full 80 against Japan, I suspect Barrett will start at 10. I wouldn't have him in the 23 at all, to be honest.

                                    Likely Jordan at fullback and either Reece or Tele'a on the wing, but Reece has been given a few opportunities and Tele'a agility might win him the start for this match.

                                    Expecting Ratima, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Ioane, Tele'a, Jordan with a bench of Perenara, McKenzie, Lienert-Brown.

                                    You wouldn't have Mckenzie in the 23 at all? Who covers 10?

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                                    @brodean Sorry, I meant I wouldn't have Barrett in the 23.

                                    Perofeta at fullback with Jordan on the right wing is the go for me.

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                                    • Mr FishM Mr Fish

                                      Given that McKenzie played the full 80 against Japan, I suspect Barrett will start at 10. I wouldn't have him in the 23 at all, to be honest.

                                      Likely Jordan at fullback and either Reece or Tele'a on the wing, but Reece has been given a few opportunities and Tele'a agility might win him the start for this match.

                                      Expecting Ratima, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Ioane, Tele'a, Jordan with a bench of Perenara, McKenzie, Lienert-Brown.

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                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                      Given that McKenzie played the full 80 against Japan, I suspect Barrett will start at 10. I wouldn't have him in the 23 at all, to be honest.

                                      Likely Jordan at fullback and either Reece or Tele'a on the wing, but Reece has been given a few opportunities and Tele'a agility might win him the start for this match.

                                      Expecting Ratima, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Ioane, Tele'a, Jordan with a bench of Perenara, McKenzie, Lienert-Brown.

                                      Hasn't McKenzie played pretty much the full 80 in every game except the dead rubber Bledisloe?
                                      I would be astonished if BB's mediocre performance at 10 in that game has seen him move to the top of the ladder. Our backs looked better the minute McKenzie came on.

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                                        yay. we'll go from not scoring in the last 20 to not scoring in the first 60.

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                                        • Mr FishM Mr Fish

                                          @brodean Sorry, I meant I wouldn't have Barrett in the 23.

                                          Perofeta at fullback with Jordan on the right wing is the go for me.

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                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          @brodean Sorry, I meant I wouldn't have Barrett in the 23.

                                          Perofeta at fullback with Jordan on the right wing is the go for me.

                                          I don't get the love for Perofeta at fullback, he wasn't a standout at all in Super rugby in that position, especially in a dominant team. I don't even think many had him as even being apart of the AB squad, let alone a starter in tests of this magnitude. They rested Beaudy for a reason against Japan, he will definitely be in the 23.

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