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All Blacks v France

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  • bayimportsB bayimports

    So Robert Van Royen either asked but didn't get a direct quote or has just assumed. Either way Ardie at 7, gets a mention.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360483330/all-blacks-call-reinforcements-after-sam-cane-and-mark-telea-ruled-out-france-test

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    @bayimports said in All Blacks v France:

    So Robert Van Royen either asked but didn't get a direct quote or has just assumed. Either way Ardie at 7, gets a mention.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360483330/all-blacks-call-reinforcements-after-sam-cane-and-mark-telea-ruled-out-france-test

    Confirms that neither Blackadder nor Papali'i are joining the tour.

    We're going to be dipping a fair way down the depth chart for this one.

    I can't see them doing anything but shifting Ardie to 7 and Sititi to 8. Don't think this is a test for a newbie to start at 7.

    Probably means Finau at 6, unless they do something unusual and play e.g. Vaa'i there.

    Then Lakai on the bench.

    The plan will obviously be for Ardie and Wallace to play the full 80, but whether they bring him on to play 6 or they shift Ardie and Wallace back to their regular positions and play Lakai at 7, who knows.

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      Would they shift Sititi to 7? Finau at 6 and keep Ardie at 8? Not sure I would do it myself, but it wouldn't surprise me because I am not sure numbers on backs mean too much nowadays.

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      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

        Would they shift Sititi to 7? Finau at 6 and keep Ardie at 8? Not sure I would do it myself, but it wouldn't surprise me because I am not sure numbers on backs mean too much nowadays.

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        @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

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          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

          @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

          True, but Sititi is not unfamiliar with that role. They've asked a lot of the young fella so far, what's one more thing?

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

            @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

            True, but Sititi is not unfamiliar with that role. They've asked a lot of the young fella so far, what's one more thing?

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            @Crazy-Horse i didn't realise he's played there, ignore me

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @Crazy-Horse i didn't realise he's played there, ignore me

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              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

              @Crazy-Horse i didn't realise he's played there, ignore me

              I haven't fact checked it, but it was mentioned he was the 7 for NZ 20s when Lakai was at 8.

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

                @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

                True, but Sititi is not unfamiliar with that role. They've asked a lot of the young fella so far, what's one more thing?

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                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France:

                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

                @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

                True, but Sititi is not unfamiliar with that role. They've asked a lot of the young fella so far, what's one more thing?

                I still don't understand why he's not captain and calling the lineouts yet.

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                  Savea or Sititi at 8 will depend on how confident we are in our scrum. Do we need young Wallace with another key responsibility at his age if the scrum is under pressure all night?

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                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France:

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

                    @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

                    True, but Sititi is not unfamiliar with that role. They've asked a lot of the young fella so far, what's one more thing?

                    I still don't understand why he's not captain and calling the lineouts yet.

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                    @reprobate said in All Blacks v France:

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France:

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

                    @Crazy-Horse definitely still means something as far as set piece, very different defending openside to blindside

                    True, but Sititi is not unfamiliar with that role. They've asked a lot of the young fella so far, what's one more thing?

                    I still don't understand why he's not captain and calling the lineouts yet.

                    He'll probably do a clearing kick soon and have us wondering why he's not doing that too.

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                      Would love to see Finau, Savea, Sititi as the loose forward combo for this match. It would be an exciting watch.

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                        If Sititi plays 8 I wonder if they'll think of running a Chiefs combo 8-9-10

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          If Sititi plays 8 I wonder if they'll think of running a Chiefs combo 8-9-10

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                          @KiwiMurph im actually a big fan of running out successful combos from lower levels, i wouldnt hate this

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                            Too many Chiefs…..

                            If ever there was a test match for Finau to make his mark this is it. Step up to the plate toko and let the world know.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              Too many Chiefs…..

                              If ever there was a test match for Finau to make his mark this is it. Step up to the plate toko and let the world know.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France:

                              Too many Chiefs…..

                              If ever there was a test match for Finau to make his mark this is it. Step up to the plate toko and let the world know.

                              i would love him to lay out Dupont with a tackle that looks borderline but isn't penalisable. Just for the melts

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                havent read the whole thread so appologies if this is old news

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                                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

                                havent read the whole thread so appologies if this is old news

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                                Apology accepted.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  Too many Chiefs…..

                                  If ever there was a test match for Finau to make his mark this is it. Step up to the plate toko and let the world know.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France:

                                  Too many Chiefs…..

                                  If ever there was a test match for Finau to make his mark this is it. Step up to the plate toko and let the world know.

                                  He will, the dox is a gun player. He was really starting to hurt people in his last start and I feel that he's getting more comfortable in the environment.

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                                  • Mr FishM Mr Fish

                                    @ACT-Crusader Dupont is so far and away the best player in the world right now - he's an absolute freak. Pretty much everything he touches turns to gold.

                                    The one caveat is that he's only a couple of months back into playing international XVs, but that's not really a massive issue.

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                                    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:

                                    @ACT-Crusader Dupont is so far and away the best player in the world right now - he's an absolute freak. Pretty much everything he touches turns to gold.

                                    The one caveat is that he's only a couple of months back into playing international XVs, but that's not really a massive issue.

                                    I wouldn’t select one French player in a combined Rainbow Warrior XV….

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @ACT-Crusader Dupont is so far and away the best player in the world right now - he's an absolute freak. Pretty much everything he touches turns to gold.

                                      The one caveat is that he's only a couple of months back into playing international XVs, but that's not really a massive issue.

                                      I wouldn’t select one French player in a combined Rainbow Warrior XV….

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @ACT-Crusader Dupont is so far and away the best player in the world right now - he's an absolute freak. Pretty much everything he touches turns to gold.

                                      The one caveat is that he's only a couple of months back into playing international XVs, but that's not really a massive issue.

                                      I wouldn’t select one French player in a combined Rainbow Warrior XV….

                                      Comedy Gold

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:

                                        "Antoine Dupont can nearly do it all on the pitch which is why the All Blacks, and potential opposite Cam Roigard, must have a plan, writes Patrick McKendry."

                                        What? Top teams need a plan? This is extraordinary!
                                        The perspicacious insight of journalists these days is exhilarating!

                                        ....in fairness....us coming up with a gameplan tailored to our opposition rather than justhow we want to play regardless of who we're playing....would be nice 😉

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                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:

                                        "Antoine Dupont can nearly do it all on the pitch which is why the All Blacks, and potential opposite Cam Roigard, must have a plan, writes Patrick McKendry."

                                        What? Top teams need a plan? This is extraordinary!
                                        The perspicacious insight of journalists these days is exhilarating!

                                        ....in fairness....us coming up with a gameplan tailored to our opposition rather than justhow we want to play regardless of who we're playing....would be nice 😉

                                        yes and rather novel since the Hansen days but surely that is coaching 101?!

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          Savea or Sititi at 8 will depend on how confident we are in our scrum. Do we need young Wallace with another key responsibility at his age if the scrum is under pressure all night?

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:

                                          Savea or Sititi at 8 will depend on how confident we are in our scrum. Do we need young Wallace with another key responsibility at his age if the scrum is under pressure all night?

                                          He's a longterm leader IMO but let him do what he is doing now I'd propose.

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