All Blacks v France
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I reckon NZ is going to win and going to win well. Not sure France has recovered from going out in the quarter finals of their home tournament and when you have players throwing toys out of the cot for making the bench that’s a bit of a signal. In saying that I haven’t followed the French team closely for form. Might be wrong in which case I’ll have to accept the shame…but nz by 15.
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Apart from the injury enforced Reece for Telea that has to be our best backline, not superstars at the top of their game in all positions but the best backline we currently have. Aumua could rightly feel aggrieved to not be rewarded for his performance the last two games with the starting jersey but really isn't this a position where we are talking about two players who have both been playing outstandingly this season, unlike first five where we are not as strong as we sometimes have been and it seems everyone on here has their pet. With the cantabs still rooting for Mo'unga less than half the fern is ever happy.
Loose forward combo maybe not quite the best we could come up with but so hard to balance a trio with Savea in it, he has to be selected as one of the best we currently have but he's still not a 7 or an 8, Cane has been utilised superbly to balance this. Could be a glimpse of the future if Savea is subbed for Lakai... unlikely to be the plan though.
I thought it was hard to complain with the team from the available players the last two weeks and I would say the same this week.@Runt said in All Blacks v France:
Loose forward combo maybe not quite the best we could come up with but so hard to balance a trio with Savea in it, he has to be selected as one of the best we currently have but he's still not a 7 or an 8, Cane has been utilised superbly to balance this. Could be a glimpse of the future if Savea is subbed for Lakai... unlikely to be the plan though.
I'd have a lot more faith in the coaching group if that transpired around the 50th minute mark.
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I reckon NZ is going to win and going to win well. Not sure France has recovered from going out in the quarter finals of their home tournament and when you have players throwing toys out of the cot for making the bench that’s a bit of a signal. In saying that I haven’t followed the French team closely for form. Might be wrong in which case I’ll have to accept the shame…but nz by 15.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v France:
I reckon NZ is going to win and going to win well. Not sure France has recovered from going out in the quarter finals of their home tournament and when you have players throwing toys out of the cot for making the bench that’s a bit of a signal. In saying that I haven’t followed the French team closely for form. Might be wrong in which case I’ll have to accept the shame…but nz by 15.
What could be more French than them putting on a display with that internal turmoil?
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Can I just say, I fucking love how deliciously French it is to go on strike because you were put on thr bench.
Bien jouè
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
Can I just say, I fucking love how deliciously French it is to go on strike because you were put on thr bench.
Bien jouè
Fuck this vingt trois hommes game idea!
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France:
@Jet said in All Blacks v France:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v France:
DMac starts in my book. DMac was great against Ireland.
I've been waiting years for Savea to play at 7Injury will once again be the Allblacks best selector. Savea is gonna get stuck in.
In other news all aboard the #Camwagon
Choo ChooCan’t wait to see DuPonts face when he realises that Daddy is home.
Why will it take a jersey number change for him to get stuck in?
I think you’re getting a bit carried away about Roigard.
Because he is fond of a highlight reel poach or two and now he has carte blanche to feed his gluttonous belly..
It will also free up Sititi to play his best position hence injury being the best selector albeit by proxy in this case.
The Camwagon is leaving the station mate. Jump on or be left on the platform with Victor Meldrew.
Choo Choo
@Jet said in All Blacks v France:
The Camwagon is leaving the station mate. Jump on or be left on the platform with Victor Meldrew.
Choo Choo
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Bloody hell, golden boy Beauden Barrett has had a pretty sweet ride over the last four years. Never sets the house on fire but seems to always squeeze himself in.
DMac should be starting after last week. Disappointing.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
Bloody hell, golden boy Beauden Barrett has had a pretty sweet ride over the last four years. Never sets the house on fire but seems to always squeeze himself in.
DMac should be starting after last week. Disappointing.
Beaudy will be the most capped All Black of all time at this rate!
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@African-Monkey I think some people are finally going to notice the work Cane does by his absence. Because Ardie doesn't play anything like it.
@antipodean
On the other hand this could be another 2004 Paree moment and I'll be there to witness it :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: -
DMac on at 55, BB to fullback. France to be totally flabbergasted by a pivot that is actually a pivot and can pass/kick accurately, combined with a fullback that actually looks to link with his support that they give up 30 points.
@Bones said in All Blacks v France:
DMac on at 55, BB to fullback. France to be totally flabbergasted by a pivot that is actually a pivot and can pass/kick accurately, combined with a fullback that actually looks to link with his support that they give up 30 points.
I'd prefer on at 41
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Apart from the injury enforced Reece for Telea that has to be our best backline, not superstars at the top of their game in all positions but the best backline we currently have. Aumua could rightly feel aggrieved to not be rewarded for his performance the last two games with the starting jersey but really isn't this a position where we are talking about two players who have both been playing outstandingly this season, unlike first five where we are not as strong as we sometimes have been and it seems everyone on here has their pet. With the cantabs still rooting for Mo'unga less than half the fern is ever happy.
Loose forward combo maybe not quite the best we could come up with but so hard to balance a trio with Savea in it, he has to be selected as one of the best we currently have but he's still not a 7 or an 8, Cane has been utilised superbly to balance this. Could be a glimpse of the future if Savea is subbed for Lakai... unlikely to be the plan though.
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geez this coaching squad makes it hard to get on the razor bandwagon..
We’ve rewarded performance.
we rewarded form
It’s difficult not to play Ethan de Groot but the other two are playing great footy, as simple as that
“Cam’s been impressive hasn’t he? He’s taken his opportunities and we believe this is the match for himthen goes and sticks the two blokes that took their opportunities, played great footy and delivered probably their best test performances..
..on the bench
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geez this coaching squad makes it hard to get on the razor bandwagon..
We’ve rewarded performance.
we rewarded form
It’s difficult not to play Ethan de Groot but the other two are playing great footy, as simple as that
“Cam’s been impressive hasn’t he? He’s taken his opportunities and we believe this is the match for himthen goes and sticks the two blokes that took their opportunities, played great footy and delivered probably their best test performances..
..on the bench
@WillieTheWaiter Perhaps he wants to finish strongly?
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Jalibert spat out his dummy about being put on the bench so withdrew -
Matthieu reportedly told French coach Fabien Galthié not to pick him on the bench after missing out on a starting spot to face the All Blacks.
Thomas Ramos will start at first five-eighth from his usual position at 15, alongside halfback Antoine Dupont. Jalibert was on the bench against Japan was according to reports, didn’t want to face the All Blacks from the bench.
“Everyone has their own emotions and is free to share them,” Galthié said. “We need determination, strong players. Up until now he’s always given his best. He will continue with the national team, if he so chooses. It’s down to him to decide.”
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v France:
Jalibert spat out his dummy about being put on the bench so withdrew -
Matthieu reportedly told French coach Fabien Galthié not to pick him on the bench after missing out on a starting spot to face the All Blacks.
Thomas Ramos will start at first five-eighth from his usual position at 15, alongside halfback Antoine Dupont. Jalibert was on the bench against Japan was according to reports, didn’t want to face the All Blacks from the bench.
“Everyone has their own emotions and is free to share them,” Galthié said. “We need determination, strong players. Up until now he’s always given his best. He will continue with the national team, if he so chooses. It’s down to him to decide.”
When coaches / management / politicians pull out those sort of lines about someone it usually means the beginning of the end.
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I reckon NZ is going to win and going to win well. Not sure France has recovered from going out in the quarter finals of their home tournament and when you have players throwing toys out of the cot for making the bench that’s a bit of a signal. In saying that I haven’t followed the French team closely for form. Might be wrong in which case I’ll have to accept the shame…but nz by 15.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v France:
I reckon NZ is going to win and going to win well. Not sure France has recovered from going out in the quarter finals of their home tournament and when you have players throwing toys out of the cot for making the bench that’s a bit of a signal. In saying that I haven’t followed the French team closely for form. Might be wrong in which case I’ll have to accept the shame…but nz by 15.
Yes but it's France, they have been known to play better on bad form and when kicking out their coach...
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@WillieTheWaiter Perhaps he wants to finish strongly?
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v France:
@WillieTheWaiter Perhaps he wants to finish strongly?
yeh I get that and that's defo a more explosive pack coming off hte bench.
it's just his shithouse contradicting messaging. And more against Beauds - not like he's done anything that makes him the natural selection at 10 with the 1.5 games he's played.. and more of a slap in the face for Dmac who finally delivered everything that we've wanted from him all year, and still gets dropped.
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Interesting-are the coaches naturally conserative picking BB, or, conversely, can they not help wanting to tinker with the backline?
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Am enjoying the consistency of selection. Hoping for another win.
Will be intriguing to see if there is more than meets the eye with this EDG thing, because I thought they may have brought him back this week. He is still by far and away our best scrummaging loosehead, and would be a better pick than Ofa.
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I think the difference is that Barrett and Taylor 'lost' their places in the starting line-up due to injury whereas Ethan de Groot's was due to his own indiscipline.
Would still much rather see McKenzie at 10 (and Barrett left right out) and would probably opt for Aumua at 2 and Taylor on the bench (simply to keep allowing Aumua to grow as an international hooker), but I don't think Razor's messaging is necessarily inconsistent here.
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Interesting-are the coaches naturally conserative picking BB, or, conversely, can they not help wanting to tinker with the backline?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
Interesting-are the coaches naturally conserative picking BB, or, conversely, can they not help wanting to tinker with the backline?
Based on what we've seen this year, fair to say they are naturally conservative in their gameday 23 selections.
