All Blacks v France
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Fair to say Ofa has been bloody good his last couple of games so zero surprises he's still there over a scrummage only bench loose head
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All Blacks sadly in their away strip this week -
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v France:
All Blacks sadly in their away strip this week -
I preferred the old days when the home team always wore their alternate jersey for clashes. Or even better when France had a jersey that didn't clash. Although I suspect that WR would have enforced alternate's by now.
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@frugby said in All Blacks v France:
Am enjoying the consistency of selection. Hoping for another win.
Will be intriguing to see if there is more than meets the eye with this EDG thing, because I thought they may have brought him back this week. He is still by far and away our best scrummaging loosehead, and would be a better pick than Ofa.
Ofa gets himself into shape though at least. De Groot is a lazy slug and his specialty which is supposedly scrummaging, was crap against the Wallabies, the last time he was seen.
Yes Ofa is just passable as a scrimmages and his discipline can be very poor, but at least he can get himself into decent shape, unlike De Groot.
Think that is harsh. de Groot is one of those guys who naturally just is not fit at all, so as soon as he misses a few weeks he takes a couple to get back up to speed.
Missing these few tests could be a great kick up the backside and will benefit the ABs long-term, but if he wasn’t fit he wouldn’t be there. Think that is pretty clear.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v France:
Not a fan of this selection. McKenzie is far and away the better ten, and Robertson is putting him in a position where he is likely to come on late and have to chase the game - then he's going to have to try things, mistakes will happen, and he will get rubbished as erratic. .
Or, he comes on and plays really well - and the other idiots pipe up with "see, I told you he is best used off the bench"
@voodoo said in All Blacks v France:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v France:
Not a fan of this selection. McKenzie is far and away the better ten, and Robertson is putting him in a position where he is likely to come on late and have to chase the game - then he's going to have to try things, mistakes will happen, and he will get rubbished as erratic. .
Or, he comes on and plays really well - and the other idiots pipe up with "see, I told you he is best used off the bench"
I’ll happily put my hand up as an idiot because I still think that is where DMac has been at his best.
And yes, all until Mo’unga returns or FABRR makes the squad…..
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Think that is harsh. de Groot is one of those guys who naturally just is not fit at all, so as soon as he misses a few weeks he takes a couple to get back up to speed.
Missing these few tests could be a great kick up the backside and will benefit the ABs long-term, but if he wasn’t fit he wouldn’t be there. Think that is pretty clear.
@frugby said in All Blacks v France:
Think that is harsh. de Groot is one of those guys who naturally just is not fit at all, so as soon as he misses a few weeks he takes a couple to get back up to speed.
Missing these few tests could be a great kick up the backside and will benefit the ABs long-term, but if he wasn’t fit he wouldn’t be there. Think that is pretty clear.
Hey, if he were fit, I'd have him on a rotation with Williams too, but he isn't. My wording was harsh, but if he had the same attitude off the field as Ofa, he'd be starting almost every game.
It was really noticeable against the Wallabies how off the pace he was. I rate him when fit, but it's up to him to show that he wants it. You're right, maybe this is the kick up the backside he needs.
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@voodoo said in All Blacks v France:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v France:
Not a fan of this selection. McKenzie is far and away the better ten, and Robertson is putting him in a position where he is likely to come on late and have to chase the game - then he's going to have to try things, mistakes will happen, and he will get rubbished as erratic. .
Or, he comes on and plays really well - and the other idiots pipe up with "see, I told you he is best used off the bench"
I’ll happily put my hand up as an idiot because I still think that is where DMac has been at his best.
And yes, all until Mo’unga returns or FABRR makes the squad…..
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France:
@voodoo said in All Blacks v France:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v France:
Not a fan of this selection. McKenzie is far and away the better ten, and Robertson is putting him in a position where he is likely to come on late and have to chase the game - then he's going to have to try things, mistakes will happen, and he will get rubbished as erratic. .
Or, he comes on and plays really well - and the other idiots pipe up with "see, I told you he is best used off the bench"
I’ll happily put my hand up as an idiot because I still think that is where DMac has been at his best.
And yes, all until Mo’unga returns or FABRR makes the squad…..
You're not an idiot per se for thinking it's his best spot. You're only an idiot if you watch his recent great cameos and use them as your primary evidence as to why he shouldn't start over BB.
I mean heck, I reckon Dan would probably have gone Ok off the bench for 30mins too
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Am enjoying the consistency of selection. Hoping for another win.
Will be intriguing to see if there is more than meets the eye with this EDG thing, because I thought they may have brought him back this week. He is still by far and away our best scrummaging loosehead, and would be a better pick than Ofa.
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Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
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Cant wait to see Dmac come on for Reece (not).. thankfully HIA fucked Razors selection last time and Telea came back on.
Apart from that bench looks strong, biggest improvement this year in the forwards at least has been impact from the bench
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France:
@voodoo said in All Blacks v France:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v France:
Not a fan of this selection. McKenzie is far and away the better ten, and Robertson is putting him in a position where he is likely to come on late and have to chase the game - then he's going to have to try things, mistakes will happen, and he will get rubbished as erratic. .
Or, he comes on and plays really well - and the other idiots pipe up with "see, I told you he is best used off the bench"
I’ll happily put my hand up as an idiot because I still think that is where DMac has been at his best.
And yes, all until Mo’unga returns or FABRR makes the squad…..
You're not an idiot per se for thinking it's his best spot. You're only an idiot if you watch his recent great cameos and use them as your primary evidence as to why he shouldn't start over BB.
I mean heck, I reckon Dan would probably have gone Ok off the bench for 30mins too
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Sunday morning prediction: Beauden Barrett MOTM, All Blacks win by 17 points.
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Must be 1st time since 2006 EOYT (Collins, Masoe, Luaki) All Blacks have a non-NZ Euro starting LF trio?
Also, I actually can't ever recall us having an entire forward bench with no NZ Euro guys, is this a first?
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Must be 1st time since 2006 EOYT (Collins, Masoe, Luaki) All Blacks have a non-NZ Euro starting LF trio?
Also, I actually can't ever recall us having an entire forward bench with no NZ Euro guys, is this a first?
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks v France:
Must be 1st time since 2006 EOYT (Collins, Masoe, Luaki) All Blacks have a non-NZ Euro starting LF trio?
Also, I actually can't ever recall us having an entire forward bench with no NZ Euro guys, is this a first?
I think we've rolled out Ioane/Frizell, Papali'i, Savea at some stage in the last couple of years.
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Interesting-are the coaches naturally conserative picking BB, or, conversely, can they not help wanting to tinker with the backline?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
Interesting-are the coaches naturally conserative picking BB, or, conversely, can they not help wanting to tinker with the backline?
Trying to look like they're being innovative with horses for courses as they're out of their depth.... but being saved simply by the better players being better.
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Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Much better than the game in 2007 when we played in grey
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Sivivatu was magic in that game. Jane scored a cracker too.
just quietly there is a full replay available on Youtube as well...
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Much better than the game in 2007 when we played in grey
@canefan said in All Blacks v France:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Much better than the game in 2007 when we played in grey
In saying that 2007 was probably a turning point for our coaches
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Much better than the game in 2007 when we played in grey
@canefan said in All Blacks v France:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Much better than the game in 2007 when we played in grey
When have we ever played in grey? I think you're imagining things.
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@canefan said in All Blacks v France:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Much better than the game in 2007 when we played in grey
In saying that 2007 was probably a turning point for our coaches
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France:
@canefan said in All Blacks v France:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v France:
Oh no, not the white jerseys again. They’re like kryptonite, draining the power of the blackness. And don’t France know that? We used to play them all the time without the need to change strips. Think back to the 1987 WC final. France were in their mid-blue jerseys with the racing stripes down the arms. Then at some point they decided to go the deepest navy blue. Isn’t there a colour coordinating commandant employed by World Rugby to prevent these clashes? How can they be All Blacks if not all in black? It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Although at least they have not reverted to the revolting grey kit they wore in the 2007 QF against the French. The All Greys.
I recall a game the ABs played out of their skins in Marseille back in 2009 when they were in white, a lot of players saw that game as a turning point which eventually lead to the success at the 2011 WC.
Hopefully a similar result in the weekend will be the making of this side as well.
Much better than the game in 2007 when we played in grey
In saying that 2007 was probably a turning point for our coaches
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