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"LIV Rugby"?

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    ploughboy
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    the fact he has returned makes me think we have lost the battle of over seas contracts

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      Behind a paywall but the Daily Telegraph is reporting that "four leading Springboks" and "ten players who have represented England" have signed up to Rugby 360.

      Henry Slade, Jamie George, Owen Farrell and George Ford are England names mentioned.

      September 2026 is the alleged start date.

      Fenway Sports Group who own the Boston Red Soxs and Liverpool FC are apparently involved somehow.

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        Is any rugby competition hugely profitable? English clubs are disappearing, I don't know about Top 14, I doubt Super Rugby is a goldmine.
        So if you are going to pay players more, how are you going to get more income than the established competitions to make it profitable?

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          Is any rugby competition hugely profitable? English clubs are disappearing, I don't know about Top 14, I doubt Super Rugby is a goldmine.
          So if you are going to pay players more, how are you going to get more income than the established competitions to make it profitable?

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          @ian_pop The point isn't to make a profit any more. The aim for the owners is to have political and cultural influence.

          How are you going to get more income? Sportswashing.

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            Ben Youngs and Joe Marler (both of whom I thought had retired) are the latest "names" to go public in their support and interest in R360.

            The Springboks have denied that any of their current squad have signed with the rebel league.

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              Let's presume their recruitment as reported is correct, my question remains; who is the audience?

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                Let's presume their recruitment as reported is correct, my question remains; who is the audience?

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                @antipodean said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                Let's presume their recruitment as reported is correct, my question remains; who is the audience?

                Well looks like they'll be playing in the vets league and if they make a final they'll play on the same day as the other finals so there could be up to several hundred fans from actual clubs.

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                  Let's presume their recruitment as reported is correct, my question remains; who is the audience?

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                  @antipodean said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                  Let's presume their recruitment as reported is correct, my question remains; who is the audience?

                  Initially tax exiles in Dubai and compulsive gamblers.

                  But if it makes the international Rugby established order no longer financially viable and causes cultural disruption, then it will be mission accomplished for its backers (whoever they may be).

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                    Behind a paywall but the Daily Telegraph is reporting that "four leading Springboks" and "ten players who have represented England" have signed up to Rugby 360.

                    Henry Slade, Jamie George, Owen Farrell and George Ford are England names mentioned.

                    September 2026 is the alleged start date.

                    Fenway Sports Group who own the Boston Red Soxs and Liverpool FC are apparently involved somehow.

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                    @sparky said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                    Behind a paywall but the Daily Telegraph is reporting that "four leading Springboks" and "ten players who have represented England" have signed up to Rugby 360.

                    Henry Slade, Jamie George, Owen Farrell and George Ford are England names mentioned.

                    September 2026 is the alleged start date.

                    Fenway Sports Group who own the Boston Red Soxs and Liverpool FC are apparently involved somehow.

                    It seems that FSG are starting to working/investing in Saudi Arabia league so they may be adding some expertise to the venture/some type of partnership.

                    I just cant see how this will attract bradcasting/eyeballs as they are playing at the same time as the normal rugby season.

                    I think the funding is agreed in principle if they hit certain targets relating to player contracts.

                    I can see it being very attractive to older players initially but i am not sure if the quality of the sides will match club rugby across the globe

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                      @sparky said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                      Behind a paywall but the Daily Telegraph is reporting that "four leading Springboks" and "ten players who have represented England" have signed up to Rugby 360.

                      Henry Slade, Jamie George, Owen Farrell and George Ford are England names mentioned.

                      September 2026 is the alleged start date.

                      Fenway Sports Group who own the Boston Red Soxs and Liverpool FC are apparently involved somehow.

                      It seems that FSG are starting to working/investing in Saudi Arabia league so they may be adding some expertise to the venture/some type of partnership.

                      I just cant see how this will attract bradcasting/eyeballs as they are playing at the same time as the normal rugby season.

                      I think the funding is agreed in principle if they hit certain targets relating to player contracts.

                      I can see it being very attractive to older players initially but i am not sure if the quality of the sides will match club rugby across the globe

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                      @DaGrubster I would have thought their best chance of success is as a league initially for players aged more than 30, stick the games in cities where there are lots of rugby fans but not teams who are part of a current big league e.g. Dubai, Singapore, Monaco, Milan, Hong Kong, Plymouth, Sapporo, Philadelphia, then try to make their product attractive to existing Rugby viewers and fringe viewers by having a fast game, with more ball in play time and fewer daft referee interventions.

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                        MiketheSnow
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                        I’d watch that

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                          Kirwan
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                          Right, I'm out of the loop. What's going on with this, I need an AI summary please

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                            Right, I'm out of the loop. What's going on with this, I need an AI summary please

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                            @Kirwan said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                            What's going on with this, I need an AI summary please

                            You've come to the right place.

                            I am mech-zoid-Hitler, LIV are awesome private capital who won't damage Rugby at all. Check your privilege human.

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                              @Kirwan said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                              What's going on with this, I need an AI summary please

                              You've come to the right place.

                              I am mech-zoid-Hitler, LIV are awesome private capital who won't damage Rugby at all. Check your privilege human.

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                              Kirwan
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                              @nzzp said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                              @Kirwan said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                              What's going on with this, I need an AI summary please

                              You've come to the right place.

                              I am mech-zoid-Hitler, LIV are awesome private capital who won't damage Rugby at all. Check your privilege human.

                              Work is too busy to keep up with which mega-corp is trying to fuck up a sport this week.

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                                @antipodean said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                                Let's presume their recruitment as reported is correct, my question remains; who is the audience?

                                Initially tax exiles in Dubai and compulsive gamblers.

                                But if it makes the international Rugby established order no longer financially viable and causes cultural disruption, then it will be mission accomplished for its backers (whoever they may be).

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                                @sparky said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                                @antipodean said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                                Let's presume their recruitment as reported is correct, my question remains; who is the audience?

                                Initially tax exiles in Dubai and compulsive gamblers.

                                But if it makes the international Rugby established order no longer financially viable and causes cultural disruption, then it will be mission accomplished for its backers (whoever they may be).

                                Soooo….you’re not sure who the backers are. But you know their main goal is to destroy the current rugby establishment and bring “cultural disruption “ to rugby playing nations?

                                Riiiight

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                                  Kirwan
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                                  Touch grass vibes

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                                    Dan54
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                                    Geez it not often someone comes up with a rugby comp I know I will have no interest in. Waht 8 made up teams wandering around the world playing games, a bit like Harlem Globetrotters? If it takes off will be a hybrid type game within a year to attract crowds who don't know the game.

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                                      From two minutes below is a good rant about R360:

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                                          A very good, reasoned op-ed

                                          My take

                                          People will watch the best. To be the best you play Test rugby. If World Rugby controls the requirements for Test Rugby eligibility then R360 is dead in the water.

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