Black Caps vs England Series

chchfanatic

@Canes4life nah I was with some kids who were invited along for a sponsorship thing beforehand. They were only allowed to watch the warm up game of football.

booboo

@dogmeat said in Black Caps vs England Series:

Opening and keeping in test cricket is a tough gig.

Farohk Engineer did it a lot but was an average bat. Alec Stewart was a much better batsman without the gloves. McCullum hmmm

Setting Young up to fail - in both disciplines

Kumar Sangakarra?

booboo

@Virgil said in Black Caps vs England Series:

England has announced their starting XI already

Who is the blond chick?

No Quarter

How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

booboo

Further...

Who is

Bethell
Atkinson
Carse
and
Bashir
???

booboo

@booboo said in Black Caps vs England Series:

@Virgil said in Black Caps vs England Series:

England has announced their starting XI already

Who is the blond chick?

(I have a bad feeling this will come back and haunt me ... )

Catogrande

@No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:

How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

He's a young lad that has show great promise and is being fast tracked. He's been given a go in limited overs internationals and done OK. It is felt that he has the game for Test Cricket.

We shall see.

MN5

@No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:

How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

Like Michael Vaughan ( better test record than FC record ) he has the game for test cricket according to Joe Root

I woulda thought they’d put Root at first drop though

frugby

Famous last words, but this England team just looks a bit shit. Always possible Root and Brook score a million and Atkinson bowls a great spell, but their batting and bowling just looks limited.

MN5

@frugby said in Black Caps vs England Series:

Famous last words, but this England team just looks a bit shit. Always possible Root and Brook score a million and Atkinson bowls a great spell, but their batting and bowling just looks limited.

After the last two series ( one still going admittedly) both involving India I find it safer not to make any predictions

Catogrande

@frugby

I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

Snowy

@Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

@frugby

I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

I wouldn't worry, our guys usually find a way to get themselves out. How many runs they have scored beforehand varies dramatically, which is a vast improvement on most previous generations of Black caps at least. In this group there are usually a couple who stand up.

In other words, getting 20 wickets is unlikely to be the problem, but amassing more runs before we do the same to you might be. We have now played 18 tests at home without a draw is what I am getting at.

I'm really looking forward to this series, so sadly we are likely doomed to fail as well. It's the Black Caps way.

MN5

@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:

@Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

@frugby

I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

I wouldn't worry, our guys usually find a way to get themselves out. How many runs they have scored beforehand varies dramatically, which is a vast improvement on most previous generations of Black caps at least. In this group there are usually a couple who stand up.

In other words, getting 20 wickets is unlikely to be the problem, but amassing more runs before we do the same to you might be. We have now played 18 tests at home without a draw is what I am getting at.

I'm really looking forward to this series, so sadly we are likely doomed to fail as well. It's the Black Caps way.

Whatever happens I won’t be surprised in the slightest. I’ve never known test cricket to be as unpredictable as it is now

I am hoping the BCs channel whatever energy they had in India and pound a frankly, quite ordinary looking England team into the dust

I see they have Stokes batting seven, is he even going to bowl ?

They also appear to have a part time keeper. Sounds like the selectors haven’t read the post from @No-Quarter

Bovidae

Nathan Smith to make his debut.

Chris

Shoaib Bashir could be a handful bowls at a good pace is tall so produces good bounce for an off spinner.
Bryson Carse the South African born quick is decent he bowls 145 ks
With Atkinson and Woakes that is a decent test attack.