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Black Caps vs England Series

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  • VirgilV Virgil

    England has announced their starting XI already

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    @Virgil said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    England has announced their starting XI already

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    Who is the blond chick?

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      How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

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        Further...

        Who is

        • Bethell
        • Atkinson
        • Carse
          and
        • Bashir
          ???
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        • boobooB booboo

          @Virgil said in Black Caps vs England Series:

          England has announced their starting XI already

          alt text

          Who is the blond chick?

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          @booboo said in Black Caps vs England Series:

          @Virgil said in Black Caps vs England Series:

          England has announced their starting XI already

          alt text

          Who is the blond chick?

          (I have a bad feeling this will come back and haunt me ... )

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          • No QuarterN No Quarter

            How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

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            @No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:

            How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

            He's a young lad that has show great promise and is being fast tracked. He's been given a go in limited overs internationals and done OK. It is felt that he has the game for Test Cricket.

            We shall see.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

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              @No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:

              How is Bethell batting at 3? He doesn't even seem to have a FC hundred yet? Can any English shed some light?

              Like Michael Vaughan ( better test record than FC record ) he has the game for test cricket according to Joe Root

              I woulda thought they’d put Root at first drop though

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                Famous last words, but this England team just looks a bit shit. Always possible Root and Brook score a million and Atkinson bowls a great spell, but their batting and bowling just looks limited.

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                • frugbyF frugby

                  Famous last words, but this England team just looks a bit shit. Always possible Root and Brook score a million and Atkinson bowls a great spell, but their batting and bowling just looks limited.

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                  @frugby said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                  Famous last words, but this England team just looks a bit shit. Always possible Root and Brook score a million and Atkinson bowls a great spell, but their batting and bowling just looks limited.

                  After the last two series ( one still going admittedly) both involving India I find it safer not to make any predictions

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                  • frugbyF frugby

                    Famous last words, but this England team just looks a bit shit. Always possible Root and Brook score a million and Atkinson bowls a great spell, but their batting and bowling just looks limited.

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                    @frugby

                    I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @frugby

                      I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

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                      @Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                      @frugby

                      I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

                      I wouldn't worry, our guys usually find a way to get themselves out. How many runs they have scored beforehand varies dramatically, which is a vast improvement on most previous generations of Black caps at least. In this group there are usually a couple who stand up.

                      In other words, getting 20 wickets is unlikely to be the problem, but amassing more runs before we do the same to you might be. We have now played 18 tests at home without a draw is what I am getting at.

                      I'm really looking forward to this series, so sadly we are likely doomed to fail as well. It's the Black Caps way.

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                        @frugby

                        I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

                        I wouldn't worry, our guys usually find a way to get themselves out. How many runs they have scored beforehand varies dramatically, which is a vast improvement on most previous generations of Black caps at least. In this group there are usually a couple who stand up.

                        In other words, getting 20 wickets is unlikely to be the problem, but amassing more runs before we do the same to you might be. We have now played 18 tests at home without a draw is what I am getting at.

                        I'm really looking forward to this series, so sadly we are likely doomed to fail as well. It's the Black Caps way.

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                        @Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                        @frugby

                        I’m actually OK with the batting, though it is a bit feast or famine. The bowling however is another matter. No mercurial individual talents, not much experience and not much variation in the pace options. Getting 20 wickets might be a problem.

                        I wouldn't worry, our guys usually find a way to get themselves out. How many runs they have scored beforehand varies dramatically, which is a vast improvement on most previous generations of Black caps at least. In this group there are usually a couple who stand up.

                        In other words, getting 20 wickets is unlikely to be the problem, but amassing more runs before we do the same to you might be. We have now played 18 tests at home without a draw is what I am getting at.

                        I'm really looking forward to this series, so sadly we are likely doomed to fail as well. It's the Black Caps way.

                        Whatever happens I won’t be surprised in the slightest. I’ve never known test cricket to be as unpredictable as it is now

                        I am hoping the BCs channel whatever energy they had in India and pound a frankly, quite ordinary looking England team into the dust

                        I see they have Stokes batting seven, is he even going to bowl ?

                        They also appear to have a part time keeper. Sounds like the selectors haven’t read the post from @No-Quarter

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                          Nathan Smith to make his debut.

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                            Shoaib Bashir could be a handful bowls at a good pace is tall so produces good bounce for an off spinner.
                            Bryson Carse the South African born quick is decent he bowls 145 ks
                            With Atkinson and Woakes that is a decent test attack.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              Nathan Smith to make his debut.

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                              @Bovidae said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                              Nathan Smith to make his debut.

                              @Canes4life called it. That's the exact team.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360501255/black-caps-push-india-euphoria-one-side-english-challenge-looms

                              Roll on test cricket at home against a team that isn't Sri Lanka or Bangladesh !

                              ( both of whom who have beaten us of late.....)

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                Shoaib Bashir could be a handful bowls at a good pace is tall so produces good bounce for an off spinner.
                                Bryson Carse the South African born quick is decent he bowls 145 ks
                                With Atkinson and Woakes that is a decent test attack.

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                                @Chris

                                There are two Chris Woakes. The one that plays at home and then the other one.

                                We have the other one.

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                                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                  @Chris

                                  There are two Chris Woakes. The one that plays at home and then the other one.

                                  We have the other one.

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                                  @Catogrande Christchurch is about as England outside of England as it gets

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                                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                    @Chris

                                    There are two Chris Woakes. The one that plays at home and then the other one.

                                    We have the other one.

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                                    @Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                                    @Chris

                                    There are two Chris Woakes. The one that plays at home and then the other one.

                                    We have the other one.

                                    The other one sux

                                    https://cricblog.net/news-what-is-chris-woakes-test-record-away-from-home/

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                                      @Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                                      @Chris

                                      There are two Chris Woakes. The one that plays at home and then the other one.

                                      We have the other one.

                                      The other one sux

                                      https://cricblog.net/news-what-is-chris-woakes-test-record-away-from-home/

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                                      @MN5

                                      Sux?

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                                        Sux?

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                                        @Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                                        @MN5

                                        Sux?

                                        ecd9ca9d-d168-4ded-bd51-d7c6f583b981-image.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/666/How_Do_You_Do_Fellow_Kids_meme_banner_image.jpg

                                        Actually his overall record is very good. We’ll see how he goes tomorrow. At least he is an all rounder who all rounds unlike the kiwi one

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Catogrande said in Black Caps vs England Series:

                                          @MN5

                                          Sux?

                                          ecd9ca9d-d168-4ded-bd51-d7c6f583b981-image.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/666/How_Do_You_Do_Fellow_Kids_meme_banner_image.jpg

                                          Actually his overall record is very good. We’ll see how he goes tomorrow. At least he is an all rounder who all rounds unlike the kiwi one

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                                          Yeah he does (in England) contribute all round but his primary job is bowling and I don't feel that without Broad and Anderson, we can carry him if he continues with his overseas form. No matter what he adds with the bat.

                                          Cue, match winning innings from Woakes.

                                          if only.

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