ICC Champions Trophy 2025
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Bracewell first NZ spinner to take a 4for since the year 2000 in the champions trophy.
Paul Wiseman the last one
@bayimports said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Bracewell first NZ spinner to take a 4for since the year 2000 in the champions trophy.
Paul Wiseman the last one
That's a niche stat! To be fair, Champions Trophies have become much more infrequent.
Good solid win that and into the semis - not much on the game against India given it is hard to know who to avoid in the semi and how to avoid them
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@bayimports said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Bracewell first NZ spinner to take a 4for since the year 2000 in the champions trophy.
Paul Wiseman the last one
That's a niche stat! To be fair, Champions Trophies have become much more infrequent.
Good solid win that and into the semis - not much on the game against India given it is hard to know who to avoid in the semi and how to avoid them
@KiwiPie said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@bayimports said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Bracewell first NZ spinner to take a 4for since the year 2000 in the champions trophy.
Paul Wiseman the last one
That's a niche stat! To be fair, Champions Trophies have become much more infrequent.
Good solid win that and into the semis - not much on the game against India given it is hard to know who to avoid in the semi and how to avoid them
Just play to win and take some positive momentum into the knockouts
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Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
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Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
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Three tons from three different players in the first two matches. Couldn't ask for anything better than that in the leadup to the semi.
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Three tons from three different players in the first two matches. Couldn't ask for anything better than that in the leadup to the semi.
@No-Quarter said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Three tons from three different players in the first two matches. Couldn't ask for anything better than that in the leadup to the semi.
This is key to our success so far (along with the spin kings of satner, bracewell and Phillips)
Imagine having three tons and none of them from the name Kane
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@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
@Canes4life said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
It's a nice problem to have for once - who has to be left out, rather than who we have to put in to play.
But, on form, I think Conway should play ahead of Will Young.
On this tour, Devon has scores of 97, 48, 66, 10, 30 = 251/5 = 50.2 average
Will has scores of 4, 19, 5, 14, 107, 0 = 149/6 = 24.83 average. One century, but not much else.
I think Kane is averaging 57.75
Mitch Jr 48.5
Tom Latham 48.8
Rachin 68.5Given Devon has historically been preferred to Will, I don't see Ultra-Steady changing that give recent individual results.
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@Canes4life said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
It's a nice problem to have for once - who has to be left out, rather than who we have to put in to play.
But, on form, I think Conway should play ahead of Will Young.
On this tour, Devon has scores of 97, 48, 66, 10, 30 = 251/5 = 50.2 average
Will has scores of 4, 19, 5, 14, 107, 0 = 149/6 = 24.83 average. One century, but not much else.
I think Kane is averaging 57.75
Mitch Jr 48.5
Tom Latham 48.8
Rachin 68.5Given Devon has historically been preferred to Will, I don't see Ultra-Steady changing that give recent individual results.
@Chris-B said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Canes4life said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
It's a nice problem to have for once - who has to be left out, rather than who we have to put in to play.
But, on form, I think Conway should play ahead of Will Young.
On this tour, Devon has scores of 97, 48, 66, 10, 30 = 251/5 = 50.2 average
Will has scores of 4, 19, 5, 14, 107, 0 = 149/6 = 24.83 average. One century, but not much else.
I think Kane is averaging 57.75
Mitch Jr 48.5
Tom Latham 48.8
Rachin 68.5Given Devon has historically been preferred to Will, I don't see Ultra-Steady changing that give recent individual results.
Thanks for the rundown of those numbers, I think you're right in this case, Conway will probably get the nod. Conway and Ravindra have probably batted together more than anyone else so there is that factor as well.
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@Chris-B said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Canes4life said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
It's a nice problem to have for once - who has to be left out, rather than who we have to put in to play.
But, on form, I think Conway should play ahead of Will Young.
On this tour, Devon has scores of 97, 48, 66, 10, 30 = 251/5 = 50.2 average
Will has scores of 4, 19, 5, 14, 107, 0 = 149/6 = 24.83 average. One century, but not much else.
I think Kane is averaging 57.75
Mitch Jr 48.5
Tom Latham 48.8
Rachin 68.5Given Devon has historically been preferred to Will, I don't see Ultra-Steady changing that give recent individual results.
Thanks for the rundown of those numbers, I think you're right in this case, Conway will probably get the nod. Conway and Ravindra have probably batted together more than anyone else so there is that factor as well.
@Canes4life One surprising thing I found when I re-checked something is that Young has played more ODIs than Conway.
I would have lost a lot of money on that bet.
Thought some of our bowling was a bit wild - especially O'Rourke. Lots of wides. That's my main concern against the best batting line-ups.
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@Canes4life said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
It's a nice problem to have for once - who has to be left out, rather than who we have to put in to play.
But, on form, I think Conway should play ahead of Will Young.
On this tour, Devon has scores of 97, 48, 66, 10, 30 = 251/5 = 50.2 average
Will has scores of 4, 19, 5, 14, 107, 0 = 149/6 = 24.83 average. One century, but not much else.
I think Kane is averaging 57.75
Mitch Jr 48.5
Tom Latham 48.8
Rachin 68.5Given Devon has historically been preferred to Will, I don't see Ultra-Steady changing that give recent individual results.
@Chris-B said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Canes4life said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Cyclops said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Satisfying win in a bit of a banana skin chase. Nice to see us close it out without too much drama. Would have been nice ta have had at least one of Ravindra or Latham at the end though.
Ravindra obviously the key batter, but Latham's innings more valuable than it looks on a scorecard. A slow fifty was exactly what we needed when we were three down with Ravindra in full flow at the other end.
It's almost a certainty now that Conway will be dropped for the remainder of the tournament when Mitchell comes back in. Ravindra and Young to open being the form batsmen. Hopefully Gary doesn't play favourites and actually picks on form.
It's a nice problem to have for once - who has to be left out, rather than who we have to put in to play.
But, on form, I think Conway should play ahead of Will Young.
On this tour, Devon has scores of 97, 48, 66, 10, 30 = 251/5 = 50.2 average
Will has scores of 4, 19, 5, 14, 107, 0 = 149/6 = 24.83 average. One century, but not much else.
I think Kane is averaging 57.75
Mitch Jr 48.5
Tom Latham 48.8
Rachin 68.5Given Devon has historically been preferred to Will, I don't see Ultra-Steady changing that give recent individual results.
Young or Conway could come down the opposition, both still have weakness against a decent opening pace attack,I think it is a toss of a coin who you play 2 lefties opening or a Rh/LH combo.
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Do we think opening is Ravindra's best spot? I do quite like the Kane-Ravindra 3-4 axis.
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Do we think opening is Ravindra's best spot? I do quite like the Kane-Ravindra 3-4 axis.
@No-Quarter Maybe not - but, I think that's where the change would come. Hard to see them leaving out Mitchell, who averages nearly 50 in ODIs.
22 runs from wides and 15 extra balls. That needs to be tidied up.
Anyone watching late in the Bangles innings? In O'Rourke's last over, Taskin was backing away and swiping wildly - and O'Rourke was digging it in and bowling into his body - which was economical because Taskin didn't have an answer - but I reckon it was crying out for a yorker and was a bit surprised Will didn't give him one.
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Do we think opening is Ravindra's best spot? I do quite like the Kane-Ravindra 3-4 axis.
@No-Quarter said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Do we think opening is Ravindra's best spot? I do quite like the Kane-Ravindra 3-4 axis.
I quite like Ravindra at 4 as well but to balance the team he probably has to open.
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@No-Quarter Maybe not - but, I think that's where the change would come. Hard to see them leaving out Mitchell, who averages nearly 50 in ODIs.
22 runs from wides and 15 extra balls. That needs to be tidied up.
Anyone watching late in the Bangles innings? In O'Rourke's last over, Taskin was backing away and swiping wildly - and O'Rourke was digging it in and bowling into his body - which was economical because Taskin didn't have an answer - but I reckon it was crying out for a yorker and was a bit surprised Will didn't give him one.
@Chris-B said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@No-Quarter Maybe not - but, I think that's where the change would come. Hard to see them leaving out Mitchell, who averages nearly 50 in ODIs.
22 runs from wides and 15 extra balls. That needs to be tidied up.
Anyone watching late in the Bangles innings? In O'Rourke's last over, Taskin was backing away and swiping wildly - and O'Rourke was digging it in and bowling into his body - which was economical because Taskin didn't have an answer - but I reckon it was crying out for a yorker and was a bit surprised Will didn't give him one.
Yeah I was watching probably he didn’t want to miss the Yorker and get punished.
It gets used less and less these days in white ball cricket.
You can’t beat a decent inswinging Yorker at a decent pace. -
Jamieson looks a little wayward, but nice to see him back
@bayimports said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
Jamieson looks a little wayward, but nice to see him back
I honestly can’t believe he’s back. I thought he’d be gone for heaps longer
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@Chris-B said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@No-Quarter Maybe not - but, I think that's where the change would come. Hard to see them leaving out Mitchell, who averages nearly 50 in ODIs.
22 runs from wides and 15 extra balls. That needs to be tidied up.
Anyone watching late in the Bangles innings? In O'Rourke's last over, Taskin was backing away and swiping wildly - and O'Rourke was digging it in and bowling into his body - which was economical because Taskin didn't have an answer - but I reckon it was crying out for a yorker and was a bit surprised Will didn't give him one.
Yeah I was watching probably he didn’t want to miss the Yorker and get punished.
It gets used less and less these days in white ball cricket.
You can’t beat a decent inswinging Yorker at a decent pace.@Chris said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@Chris-B said in ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
@No-Quarter Maybe not - but, I think that's where the change would come. Hard to see them leaving out Mitchell, who averages nearly 50 in ODIs.
22 runs from wides and 15 extra balls. That needs to be tidied up.
Anyone watching late in the Bangles innings? In O'Rourke's last over, Taskin was backing away and swiping wildly - and O'Rourke was digging it in and bowling into his body - which was economical because Taskin didn't have an answer - but I reckon it was crying out for a yorker and was a bit surprised Will didn't give him one.
Yeah I was watching probably he didn’t want to miss the Yorker and get punished.
It gets used less and less these days in white ball cricket.
You can’t beat a decent inswinging Yorker at a decent pace.Can blame BMac for that apparently - his technique of cross-batting yorkers effectively removed them as anything other than an occasional weapon.
