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Beaver's all time NZ Super sides

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    Over the last three weeks, Beaver has named his Chiefs, Blues and Hurricanes all time XVs. Highlanders and Crusaders coming up over the next few weeks.

    Will be interesting to see what everything thinks, these are the teams he has announced so far:

    Chiefs:

    1. Sona Taumalolo
    2. Aled de Malmanche
    3. Ben Tameifuna
    4. Brodie Rettalick
    5. Ian Jones
    6. Liam Messam
    7. Sam Cane
    8. Sione Lauaki
    9. Brendon Leonard
    10. Aaron Cruden
    11. Sitivini Sivivatu
    12. Sonny Bill Williams
    13. Richard Kahui
    14. Bruce Reihana
    15. Damian McKenzie

    Blues:

    1. Tony Woodcock
    2. Sean Fitzpatrick
    3. Olo Brown
    4. Robin Brooke
    5. Ali Williams
    6. Michael Jones
    7. Andrew Blowers
    8. Zinzan Brooke
    9. Ofisa Tonu'u
    10. Carlos Spencer
    11. Jonah Lomu
    12. Sam Tuitupou
    13. Reiko Ioane
    14. Rupeni Caucaunibuca
    15. Mils Muliaina

    Hurricanes:

    1. Bull Allen
    2. Dane Coles
    3. Neemia Tialata
    4. Jason Eaton
    5. Paul Tito
    6. Jerry Collins
    7. Ardie Savea
    8. Filo Tiatia
    9. Piri Weepu
    10. Beauden Barrett
    11. Jonah Lomu
    12. Ma’a Nonu
    13. Conrad Smith
    14. Tana Umaga
    15. Christian Cullen
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    • NepiaN Online
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      At first glance without much thought:

      I'd put Hika in at hooker for the Chiefs to complete the Pies front row. Surely there is a better halfback option than Leonard.

      I'd move MJ to 7 and put Kaino in at 6 for the Blues.

      Rodney at 8 for the Canes.

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        Blues:
        I'd swap which side of the scrum Brown and Woodcock are on.
        Notable he's also included Rieko at centre.
        Keeping Kaino out is a massive mistake.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          At first glance without much thought:

          I'd put Hika in at hooker for the Chiefs to complete the Pies front row. Surely there is a better halfback option than Leonard.

          I'd move MJ to 7 and put Kaino in at 6 for the Blues.

          Rodney at 8 for the Canes.

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          @Nepia said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

          I'd move MJ to 7 and put Kaino in at 6 for the Blues.

          Rodney at 8 for the Canes.

          Unfathomable how in two players he's neglected ~140 international caps at loose forward.

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            Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

            Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

              Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

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              @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

              Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

              Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

              During those years you won all those comps..?

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              • MN5M Offline
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                Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……

                …..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him

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                  Hika or ST at hooker. I'd even have Tom Willis ahead of de Malmanche.

                  TKB at halfback - not even close.

                  Roger Randle over Reihana.

                  Loosies are tough. Messam plus two others.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                    Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

                    Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

                    During those years you won all those comps..?

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                    @antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                    @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                    Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

                    Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

                    During those years you won all those comps..?

                    if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.

                    And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Hika or ST at hooker. I'd even have Tom Willis ahead of de Malmanche.

                      TKB at halfback - not even close.

                      Roger Randle over Reihana.

                      Loosies are tough. Messam plus two others.

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                      @Bovidae said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                      TKB at halfback

                      Damn, how did I forget him when I was trying to think who should replace Leonard????

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                      • mariner4lifeM Online
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                        Rhys Duggan for life!
                        (i have a soft spot for our "close but not quite" battlers)

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          Blues:
                          I'd swap which side of the scrum Brown and Woodcock are on.
                          Notable he's also included Rieko at centre.
                          Keeping Kaino out is a massive mistake.

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                          @antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                          Blues:
                          I'd swap which side of the scrum Brown and Woodcock are on.
                          Notable he's also included Rieko at centre.
                          Keeping Kaino out is a massive mistake.

                          E Clarke and then daylight for the 13 jersey based on Super form.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Bovidae said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                            TKB at halfback

                            Damn, how did I forget him when I was trying to think who should replace Leonard????

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                            @Nepia said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                            @Bovidae said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                            TKB at halfback

                            Damn, how did I forget him when I was trying to think who should replace Leonard????

                            Wearing your Pies cap again and your obvious selection is Brad Weber

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                              Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

                                Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

                                During those years you won all those comps..?

                                if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.

                                And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.

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                                @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                @antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

                                Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

                                During those years you won all those comps..?

                                if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.

                                And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.

                                As I see it, people tend to reminisce on the players when they were most emotionally invested in the team, likely tied to when they played the most attractive football, even if the wins didn't necessarily accrue silverware.

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                                • bayimportsB bayimports

                                  Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane

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                                  @bayimports said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                  Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane

                                  left us to play for the Crusaders. Immediately disqualified for life

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                    @antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                    @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                    Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

                                    Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

                                    During those years you won all those comps..?

                                    if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.

                                    And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.

                                    As I see it, people tend to reminisce on the players when they were most emotionally invested in the team, likely tied to when they played the most attractive football, even if the wins didn't necessarily accrue silverware.

                                    mariner4lifeM Online
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                                    @antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                    @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                    @antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                    @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                    Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.

                                    Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.

                                    During those years you won all those comps..?

                                    if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.

                                    And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.

                                    As I see it, people tend to reminisce on the players when they were most emotionally invested in the team, likely tied to when they played the most attractive football, even if the wins didn't necessarily accrue silverware.

                                    cool story.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @bayimports said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                      Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane

                                      left us to play for the Crusaders. Immediately disqualified for life

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                                      @mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                      @bayimports said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                      Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane

                                      left us to play for the Crusaders. Immediately disqualified for life

                                      true didnt play many games either, but this doesn't appear to be necessarily on picked on what you delivered for the Chiefs

                                      edit: if it was Lats should be above your Holah selection 🙂

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                                        In all seriousness Senio doesnt deserve to be in all time XV, I would have thought though what impact you had on the Chiefs should count.

                                        Latimer, Elliot, ALB, Gibbes, Weber should be close. No doubt Ian Jones one of NZs greatest locks but Craig Clarke probably more prominent for the Chiefs

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……

                                          …..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him

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                                          @MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:

                                          Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……

                                          …..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him

                                          Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him.

                                          I'd also have Lomax, Thrush and Rodney over Tialata, Tito and Tiatia

                                          In saying that, the Pig and the Fish is the best named locking combo in NZ.

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