Beaver's all time NZ Super sides
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@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.
Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.
You're wrong. I love Holah and he represents my golden years as a Chief's fan (disappointed but very much in love with the team), but Cane is head and shoulders above. Honestly, I'm disappointed that you didn't even mention Lats, that's not cool.
@gt12 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.
Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.
You're wrong. I love Holah and he represents my golden years as a Chief's fan (disappointed but very much in love with the team), but Cane is head and shoulders above. Honestly, I'm disappointed that you didn't even mention Lats, that's not cool.
I will fight you fluffybunny
Time and place lets go
Holah
Lats
CaneBring your boys
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I hate these fucking threads but I also love them
Are they the best players who played for your franchise?
Ot the players who were best for your franchise?
Two different questions
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I hate these fucking threads but I also love them
Are they the best players who played for your franchise?
Ot the players who were best for your franchise?
Two different questions
@mariner4life players who were the best for the franchise, so I'm sorry to say Nonu & Woodcock wouldn't make the lineup for their efforts at mine
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@mariner4life players who were the best for the franchise, so I'm sorry to say Nonu & Woodcock wouldn't make the lineup for their efforts at mine
@Grooter said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life players who were the best for the franchise, so I'm sorry to say Nonu & Woodcock wouldn't make the lineup for their efforts at mine
I'm with you dude
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@gt12 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.
Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.
You're wrong. I love Holah and he represents my golden years as a Chief's fan (disappointed but very much in love with the team), but Cane is head and shoulders above. Honestly, I'm disappointed that you didn't even mention Lats, that's not cool.
I will fight you fluffybunny
Time and place lets go
Holah
Lats
CaneBring your boys
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@gt12 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.
Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.
You're wrong. I love Holah and he represents my golden years as a Chief's fan (disappointed but very much in love with the team), but Cane is head and shoulders above. Honestly, I'm disappointed that you didn't even mention Lats, that's not cool.
I will fight you fluffybunny
Time and place lets go
Holah
Lats
CaneBring your boys
https://media1.tenor.com/m/XhZi08D-4LUAAAAC/hasbulla-hasbik.gif
At least you finally give Lats some respect.
Cane debuted at 18 years old (prior to turning out for your BOP), played 150 odd games, captained the team for 5 years, twice a champion, twice a runner up, and was the starch in the team for 12 odd years.
Likely loses out as captain of the all time team to Messam.
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Beaver named his top Highlanders all time XV last night. Debate away Landers supporters.
- Carl Hoeft
- Anton Oliver
- Carl Hayman
- Simon Maling
- James Ryan
- Taine Randell
- Josh Kronfeld
- Isitolo Maka
- Aaron Smith
- Lima Sopoaga
- Waisake Naholo
- John Leslie
- Malakai Fekitoa
- Jeff Wilson
- Ben Smith
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Beaver named his top Highlanders all time XV last night. Debate away Landers supporters.
- Carl Hoeft
- Anton Oliver
- Carl Hayman
- Simon Maling
- James Ryan
- Taine Randell
- Josh Kronfeld
- Isitolo Maka
- Aaron Smith
- Lima Sopoaga
- Waisake Naholo
- John Leslie
- Malakai Fekitoa
- Jeff Wilson
- Ben Smith
@Canes4life I'm too young to have seen Kronfeld and Randell play in real time however their names are etched into the folklore of Otago/Landers rugby but their loose forward mate Maka at 8 I'm sadly unfamiliar with! Newby the 1st 8 I remember but Nasi Manu was inspirational so would be in my XV
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The 2007 season Evans had at 10 for the Highlanders was excellent and probably the best individual season by a Landers 1st 5 ever. His super form was better than Carters and even had some calling for him to start for the ABs that year.
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The 2007 season Evans had at 10 for the Highlanders was excellent and probably the best individual season by a Landers 1st 5 ever. His super form was better than Carters and even had some calling for him to start for the ABs that year.
@ACT-Crusader said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
The 2007 season Evans had at 10 for the Highlanders was excellent and probably the best individual season by a Landers 1st 5 ever. His super form was better than Carters and even had some calling for him to start for the ABs that year.
But only 30-odd games for the Landers compared to Sopoaga's 80+ (and a Super Rugby title to go with it).
Don't doubt that Evans was the better player, but longevity definitely has to play a role.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
The 2007 season Evans had at 10 for the Highlanders was excellent and probably the best individual season by a Landers 1st 5 ever. His super form was better than Carters and even had some calling for him to start for the ABs that year.
But only 30-odd games for the Landers compared to Sopoaga's 80+ (and a Super Rugby title to go with it).
Don't doubt that Evans was the better player, but longevity definitely has to play a role.
@Mr-Fish definitely and in this exercise I would have Lima at 10 and Mapusua at 12.
More an example of what can be remembered about players when considering players in the mix.
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Beaver named his top Highlanders all time XV last night. Debate away Landers supporters.
- Carl Hoeft
- Anton Oliver
- Carl Hayman
- Simon Maling
- James Ryan
- Taine Randell
- Josh Kronfeld
- Isitolo Maka
- Aaron Smith
- Lima Sopoaga
- Waisake Naholo
- John Leslie
- Malakai Fekitoa
- Jeff Wilson
- Ben Smith
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Beaver named his top Highlanders all time XV last night. Debate away Landers supporters.
- Carl Hoeft
- Anton Oliver
- Carl Hayman
- Simon Maling
- James Ryan
- Taine Randell
- Josh Kronfeld
- Isitolo Maka
- Aaron Smith
- Lima Sopoaga
- Waisake Naholo
- John Leslie
- Malakai Fekitoa
- Jeff Wilson
- Ben Smith
Hard for me to look past Nasi Manu at 8. Absolute inspiration in his years with the team, most notably the 2015 championship year.
Pita Alatini over Leslie at 12. Could even make an argument for Mapusua.
10 - Id say majority would lean Tony Brown but again hard to look past what Lima achieved in his years with the team. Pretty cool that his best years were when Brownie was coaching the side.
Hayman or Meeuws, take your pick. Can’t go wrong either way but I’ll stick with Hayman.
There have been a bunch of good and solid locks but none that really went on and became household names. Tom Franklin, Jackson Hemopo, Tom Donnelly, Jarrod Hoeata. Let’s just steal Brad Thorn and add him to the list
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@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Beaver named his top Highlanders all time XV last night. Debate away Landers supporters.
- Carl Hoeft
- Anton Oliver
- Carl Hayman
- Simon Maling
- James Ryan
- Taine Randell
- Josh Kronfeld
- Isitolo Maka
- Aaron Smith
- Lima Sopoaga
- Waisake Naholo
- John Leslie
- Malakai Fekitoa
- Jeff Wilson
- Ben Smith
Hard for me to look past Nasi Manu at 8. Absolute inspiration in his years with the team, most notably the 2015 championship year.
Pita Alatini over Leslie at 12. Could even make an argument for Mapusua.
10 - Id say majority would lean Tony Brown but again hard to look past what Lima achieved in his years with the team. Pretty cool that his best years were when Brownie was coaching the side.
Hayman or Meeuws, take your pick. Can’t go wrong either way but I’ll stick with Hayman.
There have been a bunch of good and solid locks but none that really went on and became household names. Tom Franklin, Jackson Hemopo, Tom Donnelly, Jarrod Hoeata. Let’s just steal Brad Thorn and add him to the list
@Landers92 I would have Donnelly ahead of James Ryan. Donnelly was a mainstay and at Super level was a dominant player. Plus his longevity for the landers prior to moving to a couple of other franchises should have him ahead of a number of others.
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And you can see why he’s leaving the Saders (best) to last. Far too difficult to just pick 15. Crusaders 3rd XV would beat these other squads.. .
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And you can see why he’s leaving the Saders (best) to last. Far too difficult to just pick 15. Crusaders 3rd XV would beat these other squads.. .
@ACT-Crusader said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
And you can see why he’s leaving the Saders (best) to last. Far too difficult to just pick 15. Crusaders 3rd XV would beat these other squads.. .
Mate you’re dreaming, those Blues and Canes backlines would tear the Crusaders a new one.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
And you can see why he’s leaving the Saders (best) to last. Far too difficult to just pick 15. Crusaders 3rd XV would beat these other squads.. .
Mate you’re dreaming, those Blues and Canes backlines would tear the Crusaders a new one.
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@ACT-Crusader said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
And you can see why he’s leaving the Saders (best) to last. Far too difficult to just pick 15. Crusaders 3rd XV would beat these other squads.. .
Mate you’re dreaming, those Blues and Canes backlines would tear the Crusaders a new one.
Thats why those two teams have more trophy's than us.
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Hang on a minute how many titles have the Canes won with the backlines that tear us a new one every time they faced us?
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Hang on a minute how many titles have the Canes won with the backlines that tear us a new one every time they faced us?
@Shekou-man said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Hang on a minute how many titles have the Canes won with the backlines that tear us a new one every time they faced us?
Our backline would have torn you to shreds in the one final that we played you in, however you decided to make it impossible for anyone to know where the bloody ball was.
Most of the titles the Crusaders have won are due to your boring brand, scrum and set piece dominance in freezing conditions. No one wants to watch that rubbish.
If these sides faced each other on a dry track, the Crusaders are getting ripped apart. Those Blues and Canes backlines are far superior to anything the Crusaders could put out. Let's be honest.
