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WR U20 Championship 2025

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @akan004 said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

    SA look awesome. It will take a monumental effort to beat them in the final.

    Not the Big Bad Baby Boks!

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    @sparky they look bad yesterday specially forwards and first phase. NZ defense look the best of all teams and the favourites.

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      @sparky they look bad yesterday specially forwards and first phase. NZ defense look the best of all teams and the favourites.

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      @OomPB I think it will be a really close game, hard fought, maybe a score or two in it, so it will come down to composure and skill execution under pressure. A great preparation for any of the players who go on to play Test rugby.

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        The French really fluffed their lines. They will be kicking themselves.

        The best part for me was seeing the way the NZers aligned themselves to beat the French defence. It looked so natural to them. Perhaps we are finally seeing a generation of kids coming through with the instincts to beat modern defences.

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          The French really fluffed their lines. They will be kicking themselves.

          The best part for me was seeing the way the NZers aligned themselves to beat the French defence. It looked so natural to them. Perhaps we are finally seeing a generation of kids coming through with the instincts to beat modern defences.

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          @Crazy-Horse said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

          The French really fluffed their lines. They will be kicking themselves.

          The best part for me was seeing the way the NZers aligned themselves to beat the French defence. It looked so natural to them. Perhaps we are finally seeing a generation of kids coming through with the instincts to beat modern defences.

          It was great to see the shoe being on the other foot, for once, with the French being wasteful with possession and momentum. The amount of games the NZ U20s have lost in recent years because of overplaying instead of actually adapting their gameplan to the opponent’s strengths and weaknesses has been considerable (and frustrating).

          The turnovers stats from the 2024 and ’25 semi-finals are quite indicative in this sense: a turnover balance of -23 (26 lost, 3 won) for the NZ U20s turned into one of -6 (11 lost, 5 won). The French U20s, on the other hand, went from -2 in 2024 (10 lost, 8 won) to -20 in 2025 (23 lost, 3 won). It’s basically a complete reversal of last year’s result, with the scores mostly staying closer, I believe, due to the NZ U20 cards (the Wiseman one being very soft, as already mentioned above).

          As far as the attack is concerned, credit has to really go to the coaching, I think, because none of these players will have had a lot of experience with either these attack shapes (a combination of double stacked pods out the back, with elements of the currently popular flat pod-structures) or the kind of line-speed being brought by teams like France and South Africa U20s.

          That being said, the players have shown an incredible skillset in playing close and quick to the line, choosing the right pass in a multi-option attack, and organizing strikes on the fly with enough support. Players like Cole, Simpson, Solomon and Wiseman have shown, like you said, a very natural sort of instinct for playing flat. I love how quickly a player like Will Cole shifts the ball when the attack is on and the space is available. It’s been really fun to watch.

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            Yeah the way we put it through the hands and used angles was great to watch.

            Baby Boks play a different defensive pattern than the French so I’m interested in how we will unlock our attack against them.

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              So not the worst U20 team of all time?

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                The good thing is that by my count, at least 8 of the squad, including those used in TRC U20 tournament, will be eligible next year.

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                  Just watched the full game.

                  Really enjoyed that. The skills of the backs was great to see and along with the desperation in defence the judicious use of the bench was noticeable - in addition to the dual hooker tactic, the more mobile forwards starting in the heat with the power players coming on late to close it out.

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                    Having just watched the highlights so far, how confident should we be against the Bok in the final?

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                    • T tubbyj

                      So not the worst U20 team of all time?

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                      @tubbyj said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                      So not the worst U20 team of all time?

                      Standard of competition is really weak this year. Obviously.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @akan004 said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                        Not winning the final lineout before HT and conceding the try on HT could prove to be costly for NZ.

                        That was such a dumb decision by Letiu. Throw to the front and kick the ball out.

                        It's hard to know what to make of this performance. Great that NZ won and they defended their goal line well but France made a lot of mistakes (handling errors, forward passes etc). Some of that was down to NZ defensive pressure.

                        The Wiseman YC was very soft. I've no idea why Pledger was missing from a few rucks as he was way out of frame.

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                        @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                        The Wiseman YC was very soft

                        What is the point of having mitigation in the laws when you don't apply when an attacker ducks into contact?

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                        • jimmybJ jimmyb

                          Having just watched the highlights so far, how confident should we be against the Bok in the final?

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                          @jimmyb We did draw with them earlier this year and were probably unlucky not to get the win. The way the Juniour Boks disposed of the Aussies did look scary.

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                            https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1945544712775241758

                            Gregan would have been happy with that pass.

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                            • S SBW1

                              @jimmyb We did draw with them earlier this year and were probably unlucky not to get the win. The way the Juniour Boks disposed of the Aussies did look scary.

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                              @SBW1 said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                              @jimmyb We did draw with them earlier this year and were probably unlucky not to get the win. The way the Juniour Boks disposed of the Aussies did look scary.

                              But it was only Australia :man_shrugging:

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                                @jimmyb We did draw with them earlier this year and were probably unlucky not to get the win. The way the Juniour Boks disposed of the Aussies did look scary.

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                                @SBW1 said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                @jimmyb We did draw with them earlier this year and were probably unlucky not to get the win. The way the Juniour Boks disposed of the Aussies did look scary.

                                We beat the baby Bok and drew with Aus.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1945544712775241758

                                  Gregan would have been happy with that pass.

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                                  @Kirwan said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                  https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1945544712775241758

                                  Gregan would have been happy with that pass.

                                  Oudenryn looks like he's come straight from the pub.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    The French really fluffed their lines. They will be kicking themselves.

                                    The best part for me was seeing the way the NZers aligned themselves to beat the French defence. It looked so natural to them. Perhaps we are finally seeing a generation of kids coming through with the instincts to beat modern defences.

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                                    @Crazy-Horse said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                    The best part for me was seeing the way the NZers aligned themselves to beat the French defence. It looked so natural to them. Perhaps we are finally seeing a generation of kids coming through with the instincts to beat modern defences.

                                    Only watching the highlights, but that French defence is pretty passive, I wouldn't be too inclined to call it modern.

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                                      The AB defence looked very passive too when Bau-Boirie scored.

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                                        Treacy looked cooked during this semi final. I guess he's had a too big workload in the heat as he has played a lot of minutes so far. Hopefully he will be refreshened on Saturday as he is the glue within the pack of forwards.

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                                          https://www.sarugby.co.za/news-features/articles/2025/07/17/junior-boks-name-unchanged-line-up-for-world-rugby-u20-championship-final/

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