Springboks v Italy II
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Law 12.8(d):
âIf the kicker's team is not behind the ball when it is kicked, a free-kick is awarded to the opposing team at the centre of the half-way line.âhttps://passport.world.rugby/laws-of-the-game/laws-by-number/12-kick-off-and-restart-kicks/
@PN said in Springboks v Italy II:
Law 12.8(d):
âIf the kicker's team is not behind the ball when it is kicked, a free-kick is awarded to the opposing team at the centre of the half-way line.âhttps://passport.world.rugby/laws-of-the-game/laws-by-number/12-kick-off-and-restart-kicks/
So the ref cocked up and it should have been a free kick at least?
I'm pretty sure the drafting of the Law assumes the transgression is unintentional.
Will have to check out Laws around intentional transgression of the Laws.
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A bit of waffle in the preamble to the Law book:
SPIRIT
Rugby owes much of its appeal to the fact that it is played both to the letter and
within the spirit of the laws. The responsibility for ensuring that this happens lies not with one individual - it involves coaches, captains, players and referees. -
A bit of waffle in the preamble to the Law book:
SPIRIT
Rugby owes much of its appeal to the fact that it is played both to the letter and
within the spirit of the laws. The responsibility for ensuring that this happens lies not with one individual - it involves coaches, captains, players and referees.@booboo welcome to professionalism.
Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isnât what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.
Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.
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@booboo welcome to professionalism.
Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isnât what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.
Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.
@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:
@booboo welcome to professionalism.
Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isnât what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.
Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.
See above.
He got away with that one through a reffing error.
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@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:
@booboo welcome to professionalism.
Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isnât what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.
Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.
See above.
He got away with that one through a reffing error.
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The ball must reach the 10-metre line.
Sanction:The non-kicking team has the option of the kick being retaken or a scrum.But 12.5 applies as it's the first offence?
When the ball is kicked:
a. Team-mates of the kicker must be behind the ball.
Sanction:Scrum.https://passport.world.rugby/laws-of-the-game/laws-by-number/12-kick-off-and-restart-kicks/
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@booboo sanction at a kick off is a scrum to the opposition. Rassie will have done his homework.
It isnât a penalty or a FK. Look how fast the SA props arrived for the scrum. They knew.
@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:
@booboo sanction at a kick off is a scrum to the opposition. Rassie will have done his homework.
It isnât a penalty or a FK. Look how fast the SA props arrived for the scrum. They knew.
If the ruling under 12.5(a) was correct I'd agree.
But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.
UNFAIR PLAY
7. A player must not:
a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game.
b. Intentionally knock, place, push or throw the ball with arm or hand from
the playing area.
c. Do anything that may lead the match officials to consider that an opponent has committed an infringement.
Sanction:Â PenaltyAgree about the FK though: I was quoting @PN but am not sure where he got his law from(12.8(d) is quick throw)? Is that maybe a SVNS variant?
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A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game
@canefan said in Springboks v Italy II:
A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game
I suspect (hope) there'll be clarification at WR level.
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@canefan said in Springboks v Italy II:
A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game
I suspect (hope) there'll be clarification at WR level.
@booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:
@canefan said in Springboks v Italy II:
A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game
I suspect (hope) there'll be clarification at WR level.
At least they didn't try that shit on us
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@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
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@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
@African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:
@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
Opposed situational training?
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@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
@African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:
@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
Innovation
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@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
@OomPB jumping into the tackle and obstruction.
A case of rejecting reality, to substitute your own Bones. The Copium is real.
Law 9.26
In open play, any player may lift or support a player from the same team. Players who support or lift a teammate must lower the player to the ground safely as soon as the ball is won by a player of either team.https://passport.world.rugby/laws-of-the-game/laws-by-number/9-foul-play/
@PN said in Springboks v Italy II:
The Copium is real.
Lace bugs are real? No way!
Glad I got at least one bite, surprised anyone was sensitive enough to take that rancid bait seriously.
By the way, might wanna check the ABs v France score, I didn't suffer a loss
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@African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:
@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
Innovation
@booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:
@African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:
@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
Innovation
Yep, fair play. Genius stuff that.
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@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:
@booboo sanction at a kick off is a scrum to the opposition. Rassie will have done his homework.
It isnât a penalty or a FK. Look how fast the SA props arrived for the scrum. They knew.
If the ruling under 12.5(a) was correct I'd agree.
But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.
UNFAIR PLAY
7. A player must not:
a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game.
b. Intentionally knock, place, push or throw the ball with arm or hand from
the playing area.
c. Do anything that may lead the match officials to consider that an opponent has committed an infringement.
Sanction:Â PenaltyAgree about the FK though: I was quoting @PN but am not sure where he got his law from(12.8(d) is quick throw)? Is that maybe a SVNS variant?
@booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:
But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.
That was exactly my thoughts, same deal as intentional knock on. Except quite a bit worse as it's so deliberate and obviously cooked up by the coach with the whole team involved.
Gives Rassie something to cry about when they do it next time and get penalised.
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@booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:
But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.
That was exactly my thoughts, same deal as intentional knock on. Except quite a bit worse as it's so deliberate and obviously cooked up by the coach with the whole team involved.
Gives Rassie something to cry about when they do it next time and get penalised.
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@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
@African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:
@sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.
What they actually achieved was giving up a free kick from the scrum and thus conceding both territory and possession compared to contesting in the Italian half. Itâs brilliant stuffâŚ.
