All Blacks v France III
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Perhaps they have chosen to stick to named squad, then confirmed injury replacements to replicate a tour or RWC situation. I.e. testing their planned contingency options to the max.
Thought Norris might play given his feature article. Is that 7 Waikato players in starting lineup though?
I am hoping the plan is to play an expansive style this week and move the French forwards around a lot.
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Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
His selection seems pointless now, why have 3 7's in the squad plus Jacobsen who can cover there as well? Shoudl have gone with an extra lock especially considering they planned to play Vaa'i at 6 (when we all thought he was selected there to play lock).
Were they just playing Savea at 7 and "hoping it works out and if it doesn't were can shift him back to 8??" Which if it was is an odd attitude as it dosn't show much confidence in Savea's ability when he was in storming form all year.
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@ARHS said in All Blacks v France III:
And Kirifi
Before he saw the light and signed with the good guys.
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@ARHS said in All Blacks v France III:
And Kirifi
Before he saw the light and signed with the good guys.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France III:
@ARHS said in All Blacks v France III:
And Kirifi
Before he saw the light and signed with the good guys.
Nah, I meant before his niggly penalty magnet phase
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@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
His selection seems pointless now, why have 3 7's in the squad plus Jacobsen who can cover there as well? Shoudl have gone with an extra lock especially considering they planned to play Vaa'i at 6 (when we all thought he was selected there to play lock).
Were they just playing Savea at 7 and "hoping it works out and if it doesn't were can shift him back to 8??" Which if it was is an odd attitude as it dosn't show much confidence in Savea's ability when he was in storming form all year.
@Windows97 doubt the latter given they started playing Savea at 7 last year and wanted to continue in this series.
I think you’re reading too much into the Papali’i selection. He was bought in as injury cover and then added to the squad late in the piece. He’s knows the systems etc and I think with this series the focus was on a couple of the other new faces as opposed to brining in another new one.
I don’t want to talk about the contract stuff, but that’s also a consideration too.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France III:
@ARHS said in All Blacks v France III:
And Kirifi
Before he saw the light and signed with the good guys.
Nah, I meant before his niggly penalty magnet phase
@ARHS said in All Blacks v France III:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France III:
@ARHS said in All Blacks v France III:
And Kirifi
Before he saw the light and signed with the good guys.
Nah, I meant before his niggly penalty magnet phase
Like last week?
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@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
His selection seems pointless now, why have 3 7's in the squad plus Jacobsen who can cover there as well? Shoudl have gone with an extra lock especially considering they planned to play Vaa'i at 6 (when we all thought he was selected there to play lock).
Were they just playing Savea at 7 and "hoping it works out and if it doesn't were can shift him back to 8??" Which if it was is an odd attitude as it dosn't show much confidence in Savea's ability when he was in storming form all year.
@Windows97 said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
His selection seems pointless now, why have 3 7's in the squad plus Jacobsen who can cover there as well? Shoudl have gone with an extra lock especially considering they planned to play Vaa'i at 6 (when we all thought he was selected there to play lock).
Were they just playing Savea at 7 and "hoping it works out and if it doesn't were can shift him back to 8??" Which if it was is an odd attitude as it dosn't show much confidence in Savea's ability when he was in storming form all year.
Well. Guess they see him as more than a 7. A player who can cover blindside and lock.
Maybe it's based off that 15 minutes at Lock he played for Counties last year?
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If Beaudy is out, I wonder if they will bring in another option like Reihana?
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If Beaudy is out, I wonder if they will bring in another option like Reihana?
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France III:
If Beaudy is out, I wonder if they will bring in another option like Reihana?
Next Test is a month away. They might hold out with what they have
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
His selection seems pointless now, why have 3 7's in the squad plus Jacobsen who can cover there as well? Shoudl have gone with an extra lock especially considering they planned to play Vaa'i at 6 (when we all thought he was selected there to play lock).
Were they just playing Savea at 7 and "hoping it works out and if it doesn't were can shift him back to 8??" Which if it was is an odd attitude as it dosn't show much confidence in Savea's ability when he was in storming form all year.
Well. Guess they see him as more than a 7. A player who can cover blindside and lock.
Maybe it's based off that 15 minutes at Lock he played for Counties last year?
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Well. Guess they see him as more than a 7. A player who can cover blindside and lock.
Maybe it's based off that 15 minutes at Lock he played for Counties last year?
Isn't it nice to see NPC form being rewarded with AB selection
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@Windows97 doubt the latter given they started playing Savea at 7 last year and wanted to continue in this series.
I think you’re reading too much into the Papali’i selection. He was bought in as injury cover and then added to the squad late in the piece. He’s knows the systems etc and I think with this series the focus was on a couple of the other new faces as opposed to brining in another new one.
I don’t want to talk about the contract stuff, but that’s also a consideration too.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:
@Windows97 doubt the latter given they started playing Savea at 7 last year and wanted to continue in this series.
I think you’re reading too much into the Papali’i selection. He was bought in as injury cover and then added to the squad late in the piece. He’s knows the systems etc and I think with this series the focus was on a couple of the other new faces as opposed to brining in another new one.
I don’t want to talk about the contract stuff, but that’s also a consideration too.
Regardless it's still an odd selection given the make-up of the team, it'ds kinda like saying heres a square peg we are going to fit into a round hole, but at least the square peg understands the systems the round hole is supposed to use.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v France III:
FFS, no lock reserve.
Locks are 6's and 6's are locks now.
It's only France C
@MN5 said in All Blacks v France III:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v France III:
FFS, no lock reserve.
Locks are 6's and 6's are locks now.
It's only France C
...but dont we normally use "easier" games to give guys experience....if we're not going to try this kind of thing against RSA....then why waste the opportunity?
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@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
So when was the last time there wasn't a Barrett in an AB squad?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
So Papali'i covers lock.
I assumed they'd move Finau and shuffle the loosies maybe?
My thoughts too. Imagine having a 6'3" lock these days.
PT won't be playing for 80 minutes. At some point Finau will move into lock. If there is an injury to Finau or Holland then Papali'i covers lock.
Last week Finau had Papali'i's role on the bench and he was forced to move into lock so obviously this scenario is not outside the realms of possibility. In the case of injury to two of Holland, Tuipulotu, and Finau, then Papali'i covers lock. That is part of the role of 19.
I don't like it but it is what it is.
I don't know what you think your post was meant to elucidate or expand upon. I've quite clearly stated that I think having someone of Papali'i's stature covering lock is poor coaching.
Sorry it wasn't so clear for me.
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
So Papali'i covers lock.
I assumed they'd move Finau and shuffle the loosies maybe?
My thoughts too. Imagine having a 6'3" lock these days.
PT won't be playing for 80 minutes. At some point Finau will move into lock. If there is an injury to Finau or Holland then Papali'i covers lock.
Last week Finau had Papali'i's role on the bench and he was forced to move into lock so obviously this scenario is not outside the realms of possibility. In the case of injury to two of Holland, Tuipulotu, and Finau, then Papali'i covers lock. That is part of the role of 19.
I don't like it but it is what it is.
I don't know what you think your post was meant to elucidate or expand upon. I've quite clearly stated that I think having someone of Papali'i's stature covering lock is poor coaching.
Sorry it wasn't so clear for me.
All good - I forget that not everyone hangs on my every utterance like a sermon on the mount.
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@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
Or we go old school and he doesn’t get a run at all or comes on with 3 minutes left on the clock.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
Or we go old school and he doesn’t get a run at all or comes on with 3 minutes left on the clock.
A coaching plan I like to call "The Plummer".
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If Beaudy is out, I wonder if they will bring in another option like Reihana?
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France III:
If Beaudy is out, I wonder if they will bring in another option like Reihana?
Would love to see it for the RC.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
Or we go old school and he doesn’t get a run at all or comes on with 3 minutes left on the clock.
A coaching plan I like to call "The Plummer".
@antipodean said in All Blacks v France III:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:
Bit of a stitch up for Papali'i. His only opportunity comes as a blindside/lock cover. Be interesting to see if the French stack their bench with experienced players again.
Or we go old school and he doesn’t get a run at all or comes on with 3 minutes left on the clock.
A coaching plan I like to call "The Plummer".
I used to call it the Kevin Senio
