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Wallabies v Lions II

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    brodean
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    I had the commentary turned off but to me it looked like Morgan made no attempt to stay on his feet, had his head below his hips, and connected with the back of the Wallabies neck. So for those who are saying it's not a penalty take me through it.

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      Here's the realistic Aussie Fan in me:

      We gave up absolutely pissweak metres every time we were on defence. It was embarrassing that a Test side could not defend channels 2 & 3 after weeks together in camp.

      Sua'ali'i is just terrible defending at 13. Retreated into no-man's land rather than make a decision and at least smack a fluffybunny.

      We're so passive in defence in general. I don't know what the pattern is - up-n-in or up-n-out because it just looks like back-back-back.

      We lived off some flashy back play and Skelton and Valetini monstering blokes all through the first half. I suspect Valetini tweaked his calf. Gleeson was good value when he came on but we weren't getting enough quick ball to let him ride.

      The ref cleaned up the offside line that BOK let waver, but didn't do as much about bodies in the ruck as I would have liked, and once our ball got slow, that was that.

      Yes it's an improved performance, but it is built on a couple of players, not a good team structure.

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        mariner4life
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        #240

        The Lions were so bad

        And yet the The wallabies were so much worse

        If we don't destroy this team then we're going nowhere

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          I had the commentary turned off but to me it looked like Morgan made no attempt to stay on his feet, had his head below his hips, and connected with the back of the Wallabies neck. So for those who are saying it's not a penalty take me through it.

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          antipodean
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          @brodean said in Wallabies v Lions II:

          I had the commentary turned off but to me it looked like Morgan made no attempt to stay on his feet, had his head below his hips, and connected with the back of the Wallabies neck. So for those who are saying it's not a penalty take me through it.

          My take is no player arrives at rucks with the intent of staying on their feet anymore, so deciding to change the interpretation you've gone all series with on the basis of a hollywood is unreasonable.

          I'm also 100% certain the bleating would be the complete opposite if the jerseys were swapped.

          On the balance it's nowhere near as egregious as the Genge scrumming penalty.

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            barbarian
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            Oh go away Mariner. A cracking game, don’t give me that cynical kiwi bullshit.

            Sick and tired of these last minute ball kicking losses. 0 stars. Hate life going to bed.

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              Here's the realistic Aussie Fan in me:

              We gave up absolutely pissweak metres every time we were on defence. It was embarrassing that a Test side could not defend channels 2 & 3 after weeks together in camp.

              Sua'ali'i is just terrible defending at 13. Retreated into no-man's land rather than make a decision and at least smack a fluffybunny.

              We're so passive in defence in general. I don't know what the pattern is - up-n-in or up-n-out because it just looks like back-back-back.

              We lived off some flashy back play and Skelton and Valetini monstering blokes all through the first half. I suspect Valetini tweaked his calf. Gleeson was good value when he came on but we weren't getting enough quick ball to let him ride.

              The ref cleaned up the offside line that BOK let waver, but didn't do as much about bodies in the ruck as I would have liked, and once our ball got slow, that was that.

              Yes it's an improved performance, but it is built on a couple of players, not a good team structure.

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              mariner4life
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              @NTA said in Wallabies v Lions II:

              Here's the realistic Aussie Fan in me:

              We gave up absolutely pissweak metres every time we were on defence. It was embarrassing that a Test side could not defend channels 2 & 3 after weeks together in camp.

              Sua'ali'i is just terrible defending at 13. Retreated into no-man's land rather than make a decision and at least smack a fluffybunny.

              We're so passive in defence in general. I don't know what the pattern is - up-n-in or up-n-out because it just looks like back-back-back.

              We lived off some flashy back play and Skelton and Valetini monstering blokes all through the first half. I suspect Valetini tweaked his calf. Gleeson was good value when he came on but we weren't getting enough quick ball to let him ride.

              The ref cleaned up the offside line that BOK let waver, but didn't do as much about bodies in the ruck as I would have liked, and once our ball got slow, that was that.

              Yes it's an improved performance, but it is built on a couple of players, not a good team structure.

              This is so spot on.

              Every other team will look at that midfield and get erect. NZ and SA will do more with it then this average side would

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                sparky
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                #244

                A vastly improved Aussie effort, but the Lions got the win and deserved it. No point whinging about it.

                Be better next time.

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                  mariner4life
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                  Fuck up!!!!

                  That's a genuine clean out!!!

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                    mariner4life
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                    I'm absolutely embarrassed that this is what we're talking about

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                      NTA
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                      Ultimately there is fuck all Uncle Joe can do about this when he's given the cattle we've got, from the systems we've got.

                      Change the coach to Kiss. Or Larkham. Or me. Won't make a lick of difference.

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                        mariner4life
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                        Yeah that's the problem. You've got a few great players but they're backed by some shit ones

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                          mariner4life
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                          Jesus christ really is the entire thing one clean out???

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                            mariner4life
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                            No you didn't. Joe your defence was pathetic

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                              KiwiMurph
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                              I'm glad I went to the game

                              Not only do you get the atmosphere you don't have to put up with the commentary

                              Very fun game.

                              Best performance of the Schmidt era.

                              Agreed about the wallaby defensive system. It's a scramble system - reminds me of Scott McLeod's AB defensive system - yuck

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                                game_film
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                                6-2 split wasn’t tactical. It was an admission.

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                                  6-2 split wasn’t tactical. It was an admission.

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                                  NTA
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                                  @game_film said in Wallabies v Lions II:

                                  6-2 split wasn’t tactical. It was an admission.

                                  An admission that our tactics in the first game didn't work?

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                                    @game_film said in Wallabies v Lions II:

                                    6-2 split wasn’t tactical. It was an admission.

                                    An admission that our tactics in the first game didn't work?

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                                    game_film
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                                    @NTA An admission that they weren’t fit. But they had to play.

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                                      Ultimately there is fuck all Uncle Joe can do about this when he's given the cattle we've got, from the systems we've got.

                                      Change the coach to Kiss. Or Larkham. Or me. Won't make a lick of difference.

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                                      @NTA said in Wallabies v Lions II:

                                      Ultimately there is fuck all Uncle Joe can do about this when he's given the cattle we've got, from the systems we've got.

                                      Change the coach to Kiss. Or Larkham. Or me. Won't make a lick of difference.

                                      Implementing a rush defence system was something that he could have done, but never did. They probably would have won the game if they just brought some line speed.

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                                        @mariner4life said in Wallabies v Lions II:

                                        This ref is appalling.

                                        The Lions are out of control at the ruck

                                        Swimming around clearly offside and flopping off their feet.

                                        Wallabies need to be in the ear of the ref every ruck until he gets the message.

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                                        MiketheSnow
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                                        @antipodean said in Wallabies v Lions II:

                                        @mariner4life said in Wallabies v Lions II:

                                        This ref is appalling.

                                        The Lions are out of control at the ruck

                                        Swimming around clearly offside and flopping off their feet.

                                        Wallabies need to be in the ear of the ref every ruck until he gets the message.

                                        Wallabies are doing the same

                                        Getting pinged in fairness

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                                          The advantage laws are such a joke

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                                          @voodoo said in Wallabies v Lions II:

                                          The advantage laws are such a joke

                                          Game turned in the 56th minute

                                          Ref came back for advantage after the Lions had made 40m and then kicked the ball way

                                          Australia cleared their lines but he went back for the penalty

                                          Russell kicked deep

                                          Lions scored

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