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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

    Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

    Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

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    jimmyb
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    #807

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

    Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

    Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

    Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

      Yet he was the best lock in the country when the decision was made. He had surpassed Retallick and Whitelock as the first choice lock in the 2023 season. 2024 he is selected as captain.

      Sure, question some of the decision making on the field, but let’s not rewrite history about where his play was when the decision was actually made.

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        Razor needs to stop man-managing and actually coach (if he can). Or get out.

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          Sack Razor right now. Have seen enough. He's been in charge for a year and half and we have not seen one complete performance under his watch. Where's the improvement? We can see it with Joe and the Wallabies, but we are going backwards under Razor.

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          • J jimmyb

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

            Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

            Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

            Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

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            KiwiMurph
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            #811

            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

            Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

            Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

            Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

            At least give him a go to find out

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              MacDazzler
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              #812

              Our backline were dreadful and Holland is a dud coach. I mean he was ordinary as the Canes coach.

              Discipline also shocking.

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              • LagerLoutL LagerLout

                ******* pissed off. Worst Ab's performance in the last 30 years. Couldn't catch a cold. Just pathetic.

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                stodders
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                @LagerLout short memories here. I can remember a couple of stinkers against Argentina in NZ that would trump this one. This Argentina side is a better one than the ones that beat NZ in NZ.

                NZ weren’t good enough against what is, on their day, a very good Argentina team.

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                • J jimmyb

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                  Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                  Why isn’t it Savea? Some of our best performances under Razor have been when Ardie’s been skip.

                  The rot in this team has been around for a while and Savea is part of it. Someone relatively new would be nice

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                  Canes4life
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                  #814

                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                  Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                  Why isn’t it Savea? Some of our best performances under Razor have been when Ardie’s been skip.

                  The rot in this team has been around for a while and Savea is part of it. Someone relatively new would be nice

                  Savea is the obvious choice. He’s got the backing of most of the players, not sure Barrett does as captain tbh.

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                    #815

                    We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                      Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                      Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                      Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

                      At least give him a go to find out

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                      #816

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                      Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                      Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                      Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

                      At least give him a go to find out

                      He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

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                        DMX
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                        #817

                        I put a lot of this on Razor, in what world is our back 3 better than any other in the rugby championship?

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                          BerniesCorner
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                          Sititi and Roigard will make a big difference
                          Time for DMac to start

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Away
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                            Victor Meldrew
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                            #819

                            I never thought I'd say this, but Finlay Christie was probably out best player out there today.

                            Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9

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                            • J jimmyb

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                              Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                              Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                              Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

                              At least give him a go to find out

                              He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

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                              KiwiMurph
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                              #820

                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                              Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                              Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                              Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

                              At least give him a go to find out

                              He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

                              Like last week when he finished as captain and we dominated the last 20 minutes?

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                              • S stodders

                                @LagerLout short memories here. I can remember a couple of stinkers against Argentina in NZ that would trump this one. This Argentina side is a better one than the ones that beat NZ in NZ.

                                NZ weren’t good enough against what is, on their day, a very good Argentina team.

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                                LagerLout
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                                @stodders you must be bloody blind if you think there was a single thing in that performance that was even par. But hey, you kiddos would know.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  I never thought I'd say this, but Finlay Christie was probably out best player out there today.

                                  Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9

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                                  Jet
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                                  #822

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  I never thought I'd say this, but Finlay Christie was probably out best player out there today.

                                  Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9

                                  I give Finlay dogs abuse for fair play to him he got stuck in.

                                  The rest of them can fuck right off.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                                    Yet he was the best lock in the country when the decision was made. He had surpassed Retallick and Whitelock as the first choice lock in the 2023 season. 2024 he is selected as captain.

                                    Sure, question some of the decision making on the field, but let’s not rewrite history about where his play was when the decision was actually made.

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                                    kiwiinmelb
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                                    #823

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                                    Yet he was the best lock in the country when the decision was made. He had surpassed Retallick and Whitelock as the first choice lock in the 2023 season. 2024 he is selected as captain.

                                    Sure, question some of the decision making on the field, but let’s not rewrite history about where his play was when the decision was actually made.

                                    Yeah I thought the same , at the time we thought he was our only quality lock , then vaii put his hand up not long after that

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      I never thought I'd say this, but Finlay Christie was probably out best player out there today.

                                      Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9

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                                      KiwiMurph
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                                      #824

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9

                                      Ratima can take his time.....

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                                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                        Sititi and Roigard will make a big difference
                                        Time for DMac to start

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                                        stodders
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                                        #825

                                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        Sititi and Roigard will make a big difference
                                        Time for DMac to start

                                        Yes and no. Barrett is a better defender. Matera aimed right for DMac off the back of the scrum that Argentina got their try off.

                                        Neither is perfect by any stretch, but the backline is craving some control and direction.

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                                          Is that a trophy made of paper-mache?

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