Boks vs Wallabies 2
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@nzzp said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
From what I saw, SA dominated everywhere but the scoreboard
And the lineout
And the ruck
And handling errors
Tbh I think they'll revert to Boklodyte and smash shit out of us.
With Slipper and Pietsch out, and probably Wilson as well, time to go large.
Bell
Pollard
Tupou (tho he was useless)
Frost
Skelton
Hooper
McReight (c)
Valetini
White
JOC
Kellaway
Ikitau
Suaalii
Jorgensen
WrightBPA, Ross, Nonggor, LSL, Gleeson, McDermott, Edmed, Daugunu
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The Boks have to revert to type, they just don't have a skillful enough 9/10 combo to pull off anything else. Going to be an interesting match, when the Boks revert to type they tend to grind teams into the ground, rather than build a big lead. Aus will be working off turnover ball, a couple of pieces of magic could keep things very close there.
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@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
If they'd been a little more restrained they would have probably won the game
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@canefan said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
If they'd been a little more restrained they would have probably won the game
I thought i read something recently about Rassie wanting to reinvent their game for the next cycle - not wanting to stay the same - I don't think one loss will throw him off course as it is somewhat inevitable that this kind of change goes too far on some occassions. I expect them to tighten up around the breakdown a bit and hit the one out to commit defenders, then go wide.
Whenever i type something like that it always feels like the most obvious statement in the world and what every team is trying to do...
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After the game I got a txt from the missus that the "spring bogs" had been beaten by the Wallabies.
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@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
If they'd been a little more restrained they would have probably won the game
I thought i read something recently about Rassie wanting to reinvent their game for the next cycle - not wanting to stay the same - I don't think one loss will throw him off course as it is somewhat inevitable that this kind of change goes too far on some occassions. I expect them to tighten up around the breakdown a bit and hit the one out to commit defenders, then go wide.
Whenever i type something like that it always feels like the most obvious statement in the world and what every team is trying to do...
You could be talking about the ABs......
Winning the collision before spinning it wide, where have I heard that....
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@nzzp said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@NTA mate I only watched the second half an dthe tail end of the first. It looked like the Aus scrum was wrecked and the lineout suffered ... looks like Aus stole their share of the ball (well done!)
I thought Tupou negated Nché well. Louw seemed on top on TH side, but only a couple of poor Oz scrums, one with Slips and one with Bell.
Frost is becoming world leading and was a real pest at 5 against tall Boks lineout.
Oz maul defence exemplary.
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@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
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Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
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@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
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But what about the Bok biltong "aura"? Seeped away on the weekend!
On another note, I read an interesting thought that maybe playing at attitude is not such a great home advantage these days as some of their players are now almost as often foreign/overseas as the actual foreign/overseas players...
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Erasmus names new-look team to face Wallabies in Cape Town
Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus named a team featuring 10 changes to the starting XV for their second Castle Lager Rugby Championship match against Australia in Cape Town on Saturday, with Jesse Kriel leading the side for the second time in a Test, with returns for Cheslin Kolbe, Damian de Allende,...
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@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@nzzp said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
From what I saw, SA dominated everywhere but the scoreboard
And the lineout
And the ruck
And handling errorsTbh I think they'll revert to Boklodyte and smash shit out of us.
With Slipper and Pietsch out, and probably Wilson as well, time to go large.
Bell
Pollard
Tupou (tho he was useless)
Frost
Skelton
Hooper
McReight (c)
Valetini
White
JOC
Kellaway
Ikitau
Suaalii
Jorgensen
WrightBPA, Ross, Nonggor, LSL, Gleeson, McDermott, Edmed, Daugunu
Having seen Bok team I’d swap Ross and Bell. Also some argument for 6 - 2 to allow Tinzanno to come off bench.
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Bok side named:
15 Willie le Roux (Vodacom Bulls) – 100 caps, 75 pts (15t)
14 Canan Moodie (Vodacom Bulls) – 15 caps, 35 pts (7t)
13 Jesse Kriel (captain, Canon Eagles) – 81 caps, 95 points (19t)
12 Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 89 caps, 55 points (11t)
11 Cheslin Kolbe (Tokyo Sungoliath) – 41 caps, 111 points (18t, 3c, 5p)
10 Handre Pollard (Vodacom Bulls) – 82 caps, 797 points (7t, 116c, 168p, 5dg)
9 Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 20 caps, 25 pts (5t)
8 Jean-Luc du Preez (Bordeaux Begles) – 14 caps 10 points (2t)
7 Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 80 caps, 20 points (4t)
6 Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 28 caps, 15 pts (3t)
5 Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls) – 8 caps, 0 pts
4 RG Snyman (Leinster) – 42 caps, 10 points (2t)
3 Thomas du Toit (Bath) – 25 caps, 5 pts (1t)
2 Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 79 caps, 115 pts (23t)
1 Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 42 caps, 0 ptsReplacements:
16 Marnus van der Merwe (Scarlets) – 1 cap, 10 points (2t)
17 Boan Venter (Edinburgh) – 2 caps, 5 pts (1t)
18 Wilco Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 19 caps, 0 pts
19 Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 134 caps, 35 points (7t)
20 Lood de Jager (Wild Knights) – 68 caps, 25 points (5t)
21 Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 54 caps, 45 points (9t)
22 Cobus Reinach (DHL Stormers) – 41 caps, 70 pts (14t)
23 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers) – 10 caps, 54 points (15c, 8p) -
Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
