Boks vs Wallabies 2
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@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@nzzp said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
From what I saw, SA dominated everywhere but the scoreboard
And the lineout
And the ruck
And handling errorsTbh I think they'll revert to Boklodyte and smash shit out of us.
With Slipper and Pietsch out, and probably Wilson as well, time to go large.
Bell
Pollard
Tupou (tho he was useless)
Frost
Skelton
Hooper
McReight (c)
Valetini
White
JOC
Kellaway
Ikitau
Suaalii
Jorgensen
WrightBPA, Ross, Nonggor, LSL, Gleeson, McDermott, Edmed, Daugunu
Having seen Bok team I’d swap Ross and Bell. Also some argument for 6 - 2 to allow Tinzanno to come off bench.
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Bok side named:
15 Willie le Roux (Vodacom Bulls) – 100 caps, 75 pts (15t)
14 Canan Moodie (Vodacom Bulls) – 15 caps, 35 pts (7t)
13 Jesse Kriel (captain, Canon Eagles) – 81 caps, 95 points (19t)
12 Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 89 caps, 55 points (11t)
11 Cheslin Kolbe (Tokyo Sungoliath) – 41 caps, 111 points (18t, 3c, 5p)
10 Handre Pollard (Vodacom Bulls) – 82 caps, 797 points (7t, 116c, 168p, 5dg)
9 Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 20 caps, 25 pts (5t)
8 Jean-Luc du Preez (Bordeaux Begles) – 14 caps 10 points (2t)
7 Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 80 caps, 20 points (4t)
6 Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 28 caps, 15 pts (3t)
5 Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls) – 8 caps, 0 pts
4 RG Snyman (Leinster) – 42 caps, 10 points (2t)
3 Thomas du Toit (Bath) – 25 caps, 5 pts (1t)
2 Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 79 caps, 115 pts (23t)
1 Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 42 caps, 0 ptsReplacements:
16 Marnus van der Merwe (Scarlets) – 1 cap, 10 points (2t)
17 Boan Venter (Edinburgh) – 2 caps, 5 pts (1t)
18 Wilco Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 19 caps, 0 pts
19 Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 134 caps, 35 points (7t)
20 Lood de Jager (Wild Knights) – 68 caps, 25 points (5t)
21 Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 54 caps, 45 points (9t)
22 Cobus Reinach (DHL Stormers) – 41 caps, 70 pts (14t)
23 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers) – 10 caps, 54 points (15c, 8p) -
Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
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10 changes after a loss is crazy, yeah they have a lot of depth but it'll be interesting to see how cohesive they are. Aus will be fired up, 2/2 in SA would be incredible. Might actually get up for this one.
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@barbarian said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
Pretty sure I said we'd beat Fiji and we nearly fucked that up.
@barbarian said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
Call it PTSD.
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That Bok team might not be their best in terms of individuals. Or cohesion as a unit.
However they're going back to the blueprint: kick the skin off it and pressure us up the right end of the park. They won't care if we actually take the high balls - as soon as a toe touches the ground they'll be looking to put in a massive shot and get us gunshy.
There's nothing subtle about a 6-2 bench. The question is whether Schmidt responds in kind.
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@No-Quarter said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
10 changes after a loss is crazy, yeah they have a lot of depth but it'll be interesting to see how cohesive they are. Aus will be fired up, 2/2 in SA would be incredible. Might actually get up for this one.
Would be the first time since 1963 and to do it without someone of Catchpole's calibre would be immense.
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@voodoo said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@sparky said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Hey Rassie, keep leaving out PSDT please.
he's injured
They seem to have been pretty lucky with injuries to their top side to date, but now him and Kolisi? Jeez
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@barbarian said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
One man's overwhelming pessimism is another man's strong jinx game, or defensive mechanism. It's the hope that kills
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@canefan said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
One man's overwhelming pessimism is another man's strong jinx game, or defensive mechanism. It's the hope that kills
I see what you (Canes supporter) did there...
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@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
That Bok team might not be their best in terms of individuals. Or cohesion as a unit.
However they're going back to the blueprint: kick the skin off it and pressure us up the right end of the park. They won't care if we actually take the high balls - as soon as a toe touches the ground they'll be looking to put in a massive shot and get us gunshy.
There's nothing subtle about a 6-2 bench. The question is whether Schmidt responds in kind.
Far better backline
If the fatties can win good, clean, quick ball by taking it up the guts and tying in the Aussie loose forwards then that backline can do some damage
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Love the presentation of that data
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@nzzp said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
via Reddit:
Fun Fact: since 2019, there have been 8 matches between the 2 sides and both have won 4 each.2021
28 vs 26
30 vs 17
2022
25 vs 17
8 vs 24
2023
43 vs 12
2024
7 vs 33
12 vs 30
2025
22 vs 38
Total Score:
160 vs 212
Average Score:
20 vs 27
So Dave Rennie was 3 from 4. Eddie dogshit.