All Blacks v Springboks I
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
And yet his kicking was better than our apparent second ranked 9. That is a concern
There are major skill gaps in New Zealand rugby. And in a professional era it seems we don'[t have sufficient competition for them to be working on fixing them.
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
Because the guys who idolised and copied AS are now only in their late teens?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
Because the guys who idolised and copied AS are now only in their late teens?
Because the guys that wanted his job are professionals? Roigard, Ratima and Christie were in their late teens when Aaron was playing for the All Blacks.
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Well, I'm not getting into a conversation defending Christie as anything more than 4th string, but his kicking was good, he dealt with the Boks around the ruck well and some of his passing in open play was spot on.
Certainly no worse than the AB scrum.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Well, I'm not getting into a conversation defending Christie as anything more than 4th string, but his kicking was good, he dealt with the Boks around the ruck well and some of his passing in open play was spot on.
Certainly no worse than the AB scrum.
Razor left him on about 15 minutes too long IMHO. We saw more bad Christie than good as the game went on
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Just watching the highlights
Le Roux was very unlucky for the first try
If he'd made contact with Narawa it would have been a YC and possible Penalty Try
Should Narawa have released the ball before running over to score?
Wasn't tackled, but wasn't allowed to be. A tough one to call.
Off your feet, out of the game?
"not held"
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
South Africa played the better rugby. We were just lucky we got a few good tries early and could hold on.
Yeah I'm calling bullshit on that. We weren't great but I won't have that we got lucky and they played better rugby
They ran lateral way too much, and reverted to type with their own kick-a-thon. They had discipline issues also.
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@Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@kev said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Frank Narawa should have started the season in the test team. Hope he is okay - great 4 mins or so.
Same thing happened to him last time. Scored on debut and then hurt his back.
Big fan of Narawa but is he our new Foodbill….
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If Narawa is out, who is next caboff the rank? Please dont say Reece..
I'd rather Leicester F or Clarke if fit.. -
@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
If Narawa is out, who is next caboff the rank? Please dont say Reece..
I'd rather Leicester F or Clarke if fit..Just put Jordan at 14 and one of Love or DMac at 15.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
If Narawa is out, who is next caboff the rank? Please dont say Reece..
I'd rather Leicester F or Clarke if fit..Just put Jordan at 14 and one of Love or DMac at 15.
Interesting that WJ didn't feature as much from 14. Probably more to do with the fact we refused to hold onto the ball than anything else
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@kev said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@sparky Billy Proctor hasn’t found his feet. Still looking to play super rugby at test level. Doesn’t drop the ball as much as Reiko which is a plus but needs to improve his decisions.
Reiko hasn't dropped the ball once.
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I have just seen it.
Fuck
Fuck
Fuck
That was awesome -
Calmed down a bit
Anyone criticising Christie, Pi** off. He played his guts out.
DMac needs to start.
Jordan is fine on the wing. We need DMac/ Love at fullback.
Proctor let the shackles off and played well. The own half cross kick was a brain fade though.
Scott Barrett and Vaai were immense.
Sititi is a class act and thinks calmly under pressure.
We have depth in the forwards to bring on Holland with 20 minutes to play.
South Africa have plenty of upside , scarily good at times.
Roigard would add another dimension.
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Forwards are sorted apart from we need to work on our scrum. The backs as a whole are a liability !!! I cannot see us winning the next WC unless there are serious changes. Some of the personal and tactics are are just wrong. No expert but we used to have the best backs just about always. What the fuck happened. Too many stupid and inaccurate kicks.
There are players in the NPC that are in better form than our current All Black backs. pick on form not just because they played 50 odd test. Look at Holland and Parker. If you are good enough then you should be in. We need to get more new blood in the backs or a decent backs coach. Two years out and no more time to fuck about or have loyalty to player that are obviously past it.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
he played his guts out
I don't think anyone is criticising his endeavour.
