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Exodus 2017

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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2017:

    Aaron Cruden has signed for french club Montpellier. He will join them after the Lions Tour.

    http://www.midilibre.fr/2017/01/17/rugby-mhr-aaron-cruden-a-dit-oui-a-montpellier,1454312.php#xtor=RSS-5

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    In any case it will be no surprise despite all the Chiefs fans telling us how loyalty would win out and it would be flaky fekitoa to depart and not Cruden.

    Sopoaga will step up behind Barrett and mounga or McKenzie will be 3rd spot.

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    @Billy-Tell Eh? I've said all along that Cruden would be going. Ben Smith will too.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      @Billy-Tell Eh? I've said all along that Cruden would be going. Ben Smith will too.

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      @Bovidae said in Exodus 2017:

      @Billy-Tell Eh? I've said all along that Cruden would be going. Ben Smith will too.

      Ok some chiefs fans...

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      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

        @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2017:

        Aaron Cruden has signed for french club Montpellier. He will join them after the Lions Tour.

        http://www.midilibre.fr/2017/01/17/rugby-mhr-aaron-cruden-a-dit-oui-a-montpellier,1454312.php#xtor=RSS-5

        EDIT MOD

        In any case it will be no surprise despite all the Chiefs fans telling us how loyalty would win out and it would be flaky fekitoa to depart and not Cruden.

        Sopoaga will step up behind Barrett and mounga or McKenzie will be 3rd spot.

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        @Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:

        @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2017:

        Aaron Cruden has signed for french club Montpellier. He will join them after the Lions Tour.

        http://www.midilibre.fr/2017/01/17/rugby-mhr-aaron-cruden-a-dit-oui-a-montpellier,1454312.php#xtor=RSS-5

        Question Jauzy. T'es français et tu viens exprès nous faire chier toutes les x semaines...?

        In any case it will be no surprise despite all the Chiefs fans telling us how loyalty would win out and it would be flaky fekitoa to depart and not Cruden.

        Sopoaga will step up behind Barrett and mounga or McKenzie will be 3rd spot.

        You know, I can't think I have read one comment on here about Cruden and Loyalty to The Chiefs? Where do you get that from?

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          The Cruden thing doesn't quite ring true. I think Cruds is an honest enough bloke that he would have given Shag a heads up instead of playing silly buggers (unless he honestly told him no decision had been made and the offer was made after the game and was too big to refuse).

          I can see Fekitoa taking the money. Way too much movement in the AB midfield to come. Also has a likely desire to go for as much money as he can to repay his family. Wouldn't blame him at all.

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          @Crucial said in Exodus 2017:

          The Cruden thing doesn't quite ring true. I think Cruds is an honest enough bloke that he would have given Shag a heads up instead of playing silly buggers (unless he honestly told him no decision had been made and the offer was made after the game and was too big to refuse).

          I can see Fekitoa taking the money. Way too much movement in the AB midfield to come. Also has a likely desire to go for as much money as he can to repay his family. Wouldn't blame him at all.

          Maybe Crucial isn't a Chiefs fan I can't remember.

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            Hmmmm Happy to hear Steve Hansen is to be the new Cheifs coach.

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              @Billy-Tell i suggest before you quote me to make your point you check the context of the post. I never said Cruden wouldn't go. The post was to do with an assertion that he had already agreed terms during the week of the Paris test and the implication he was holding out on the truth.

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                Video statement from Aaron Cruden on the Chiefs FB page:

                http://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10154928268587210/

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Video statement from Aaron Cruden on the Chiefs FB page:

                  http://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10154928268587210/

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                  @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                  Video statement from Aaron Cruden on the Chiefs FB page:

                  http://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10154928268587210/

                  Devlin going off at Cruden about the bit at the start of Crudens statement where he said about incorrect facts.

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                    Yeah the video is great. It would be even better if it turned out he took a pay cut in order to experience southern France... I like Cruden, very nice guy, has been a very good AB

                    Just be honest though. "Hey guys it's with sadness I leave nz. Montpellier offered me a fortune I couldn't resist you would do the same. As an aside it's a great club lovely part of France etc etc"

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                      Video statement from Aaron Cruden on the Chiefs FB page:

                      http://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10154928268587210/

                      Devlin going off at Cruden about the bit at the start of Crudens statement where he said about incorrect facts.

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                      @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2017:

                      @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                      Video statement from Aaron Cruden on the Chiefs FB page:

                      http://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10154928268587210/

                      Devlin going off at Cruden about the bit at the start of Crudens statement where he said about incorrect facts.

                      And were there any?

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2017:

                        @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                        Video statement from Aaron Cruden on the Chiefs FB page:

                        http://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10154928268587210/

                        Devlin going off at Cruden about the bit at the start of Crudens statement where he said about incorrect facts.

                        And were there any?

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                        @Crucial I didn't read articles in the media very well because I prefer official announcements, but at least one fact they got wrong was the duration of his contract. Media said two years, Cruden says it's 3 years.

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                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                          Yeah the video is great. It would be even better if it turned out he took a pay cut in order to experience southern France... I like Cruden, very nice guy, has been a very good AB

                          Just be honest though. "Hey guys it's with sadness I leave nz. Montpellier offered me a fortune I couldn't resist you would do the same. As an aside it's a great club lovely part of France etc etc"

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                          @Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:

                          Yeah the video is great. It would be even better if it turned out he took a pay cut in order to experience southern France... I like Cruden, very nice guy, has been a very good AB

                          Just be honest though. "Hey guys it's with sadness I leave nz. Montpellier offered me a fortune I couldn't resist you would do the same. As an aside it's a great club lovely part of France etc etc"

                          How do being sad about leaving and being excited about going to France exclude each other? I don't see how he's not being honest.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2017:

                            @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                            Video statement from Aaron Cruden on the Chiefs FB page:

                            http://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10154928268587210/

                            Devlin going off at Cruden about the bit at the start of Crudens statement where he said about incorrect facts.

                            And were there any?

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                            @Crucial TBH, no idea, I haven't read any of the articles in detail. But Devlin was going off on one just cos he is a twat (regardless of any factual errors or not)

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:

                              Yeah the video is great. It would be even better if it turned out he took a pay cut in order to experience southern France... I like Cruden, very nice guy, has been a very good AB

                              Just be honest though. "Hey guys it's with sadness I leave nz. Montpellier offered me a fortune I couldn't resist you would do the same. As an aside it's a great club lovely part of France etc etc"

                              How do being sad about leaving and being excited about going to France exclude each other? I don't see how he's not being honest.

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                              @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                              @Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:

                              Yeah the video is great. It would be even better if it turned out he took a pay cut in order to experience southern France... I like Cruden, very nice guy, has been a very good AB

                              Just be honest though. "Hey guys it's with sadness I leave nz. Montpellier offered me a fortune I couldn't resist you would do the same. As an aside it's a great club lovely part of France etc etc"

                              How do being sad about leaving and being excited about going to France exclude each other? I don't see how he's not being honest.

                              Of course he is. I'd do the same thing. Let's not pretend that a lot of money didn't help ease the decision.

                              Every signing it's the same: great club, lovely place etc. You can copy and paste for faumuina and Toulouse for example. But the bottom line is a lucrative contract. Which is an acceptable reason in itself. Family to provide for etc.

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                              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                                @Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:

                                Yeah the video is great. It would be even better if it turned out he took a pay cut in order to experience southern France... I like Cruden, very nice guy, has been a very good AB

                                Just be honest though. "Hey guys it's with sadness I leave nz. Montpellier offered me a fortune I couldn't resist you would do the same. As an aside it's a great club lovely part of France etc etc"

                                How do being sad about leaving and being excited about going to France exclude each other? I don't see how he's not being honest.

                                Of course he is. I'd do the same thing. Let's not pretend that a lot of money didn't help ease the decision.

                                Every signing it's the same: great club, lovely place etc. You can copy and paste for faumuina and Toulouse for example. But the bottom line is a lucrative contract. Which is an acceptable reason in itself. Family to provide for etc.

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                                @Billy-Tell thing is, money is still a bit of a touchy subject, most people move jobs, largely for money, but they almost always cite other reasons too.

                                I expect they are largely saying what they think most people want to hear, and being these role models they are expected to be, being humble about it and not making it about money is probably expected also.

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                                  Anyone getting shitty at Cruden can fuck right off. He's had his dark days, like the testicular cancer, which would have been awful, and been a harsh reminder that life can be fragile and planning for the future super important. You never know what is going to happen as a pro athlete. Every game could be your last thanks to a freak injury. And Cruden has had his share of those too.

                                  If he wants to set himself up for the future knowing that you only have a certain window to command top dollar, I say go for it. He doesn't have anything to prove. He's put in a decent wedge of time to Manawatu and the Chiefs and the AB's.

                                  Good luck to him.

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                                    only thing that is surprising is the contract. Seems a little light to me for a current AB 10 in France

                                    Edit: Wait, i take it back, that's more to do with exchange rate than anything.

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                                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                      @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2017:

                                      Aaron Cruden has signed for french club Montpellier. He will join them after the Lions Tour.

                                      http://www.midilibre.fr/2017/01/17/rugby-mhr-aaron-cruden-a-dit-oui-a-montpellier,1454312.php#xtor=RSS-5

                                      EDIT MOD

                                      In any case it will be no surprise despite all the Chiefs fans telling us how loyalty would win out and it would be flaky fekitoa to depart and not Cruden.

                                      Sopoaga will step up behind Barrett and mounga or McKenzie will be 3rd spot.

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                                          English website so speak English if able to. Posts removed

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