Ashes 2025/6
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Forgot birdies in the title
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@barbarian said in Ashes 2025/6:
Joe Root seems to be escaping criticism, but from someone who has been described as the best England bat of all time, has he been good enough? Good hundred at the Gabba, but his other scores have been 0, 8, 15, 19 and 39. All of which were high pressure digs when his team needed a score.
If England was to win these Ashes he needed to stamp his GOAT credentials all over the series, and while he's got the monkey off the back with the century he's been a non-factor outside of that. With inexperienced players around him (in Aus conditions), they really needed him to hang around and eke out a few more scores.
Joe Root is in the discussion for best ever, not out and out. Hammond, Hobbs and Hutton are all worthy of the title and that’s just guys whose name starts with H.
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So disrespectful for the England cricket team to treat an Ashes tour like a stag holiday. What a dismal bunch of flops!
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@DaGrubster Like this.
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@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:
Ben Duckett has been working hard on his shot selection on this tour of Australia.
Vodka, rum, tequila - he's ordered them all.
They do not appear to be that serious about this Ashes tour, it's just a big holiday down under
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@canefan Shades of the England Rugby team at the 2011 World Cup, but without the dwarf throwing.
The only good news for Ben Duckett is that it's not footage of him pissed as a newt at the cease, which is how he batted on a couple of occasions in those first three tests.
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The thing about Noosa is it seemed almost performative. Take their drinking for example - they seemed to spend all their time at Rococo bar, which is the one that everyone walks past to get to the better spots. You couldn't pick a more exposed spot if you tried. At least golf courses are private, leafy sort of places.
Go to the bar at the resort, or one a bit further down Hastings Street with less foot traffic.
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I find this all really strange - as far as I can tell there's no misconduct here. It all just feels like pearl clutching (would anyone care if they were winning?)
I wish we had more in depth analysis of the actual individual performances (although in fairness, I'm not closely following this specific tour, so maybe there is elsewhere and it just doesn't generate clicks so I don't see it... Which is probably also part of the problem, but I'm inferring the quality of coverage from the cricket I follow more closely).
It seems wrong that the highest quality analysis now are the commentators doing it live. Obviously they're good thinkers and I expect them to provide good analysis as the game goes on (another bugbear of mine with some comms), but after the match when you've had time to go through everything, I'd expect it to be even more in depth rather than just 'player X averaged 34.43 a middling tour' followed by a description of the most notable innings, which is often about the most in depth you see these days.
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all this shit does is reinforce that the only thing that matters is winning.
If the poms had held a couple of catches and played one or two more discreet shots, they would be lauded for escaping the pressure cooker of an Australian summer.
On the other hand, in October the narrative around the Australian coaches and selectors was one of conservatism so extreme it was actively holding back the team. The top order was in complete disarray, and there was no depth to Australian cricket. Now Andrew MacDonald and co are winners because they are so good at backing the playing group.
Win, and everything else fades away. lose and everything you do is wrong.
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Joffra Archer has been ruled out of the rest of the tour with a side strain.
England XI for fourth Ashes Test: Zak Crawley, Ben "Uber to the nets" Duckett, Jacob "YMCA" Bethell, Joe Root, Harry Brook, Ben Stokes (capt), Jamie Smith, Will Jacks, Gus Atkinson, Brydon Carse, Josh Tongue.
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@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:
Joffra Archer has been ruled out of the rest of the tour with a side strain.
I am surprised he lasted this long.
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@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:
Joffra Archer has been ruled out of the rest of the tour with a side strain.
England XI for fourth Ashes Test: Zak Crawley, Ben "Uber to the nets" Duckett, Jacob "YMCA" Bethell, Joe Root, Harry Brook, Ben Stokes (capt), Jamie Smith, Will Jacks, Gus Atkinson, Brydon Carse, Josh Tongue.
Creepy ?
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@Crazy-Horse said in Ashes 2025/6:
@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:
Joffra Archer has been ruled out of the rest of the tour with a side strain.
I am surprised he lasted this long.
He was superb in the last test, basically carried them. But then in the 2nd innings Aus did to him what England should have done to Starc in the first test and blunted him for 20 runs from 13 overs with just the wicket of Boland. Talentwise this English side could have won this Ashes, or at least been SO much more competitive, but the difference between the sides has been IQ.
It's a real shame Archer has had such bad injury problems though, he really could have been an all time great for England.
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The Aussies are fighters. It's the DNA of their Cricket. If you're not a fighter you can fuck off out of their system. The whole focus of the Australian Cricket system is about fighting and ultimately winning.
By contrast, the ECB is an organisation about chasing easy money. The England players are developed to flog maize and potato snacks. In the pressure cooker of an Australia tour they get exposed again and again and again.
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@Catogrande said in Ashes 2025/6:
@NTA We've got the pace attack to do the job IF both Wood and Archer stay fit. After those two I struggle to see how we will take 20 wickets unless Bashir has one of his moments, but even then he won't run through your line up cheaply.
I'll just leave this here.
