England v All Blacks
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The obvious hard calls are:
BB retires,
Taylor becomes captain,
Roigard vice captain,
Jordan goes to wing,
I'd put JB at 15
QT, LF mid field,
DMac 10 and kicks@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
The obvious hard calls are:
BB retires,
Taylor becomes captain,
Roigard vice captain,
Jordan goes to wing,
I'd put JB at 15
QT, LF mid field,
DMac 10 and kicksI'd keep JB (once fit again) in the midfield and put Ruben Love at 15, but I agree with the rest.
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@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
The obvious hard calls are:
BB retires,
Taylor becomes captain,
Roigard vice captain,
Jordan goes to wing,
I'd put JB at 15
QT, LF mid field,
DMac 10 and kicksI'd keep JB (once fit again) in the midfield and put Ruben Love at 15, but I agree with the rest.
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
The obvious hard calls are:
BB retires,
Taylor becomes captain,
Roigard vice captain,
Jordan goes to wing,
I'd put JB at 15
QT, LF mid field,
DMac 10 and kicksI'd keep JB (once fit again) in the midfield and put Ruben Love at 15, but I agree with the rest.
I really worry if we think LF at centre is an answer, I didn't think Proctor was bad, but more even on wing LF is pretty slow to turn etc in defence.
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What a contrast with the Boks
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@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
It feels like someone wrote the headline before watching the match. The penalty count was 2:1 in New Zealand's favour......

NZ media are complicit in the making of the current malaise
Crap! If we need the media to tell us what's wrong we got bigger problems. than I thought. The problem is in the team and coaching team is probably part of it.
@Dan54 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
It feels like someone wrote the headline before watching the match. The penalty count was 2:1 in New Zealand's favour......

NZ media are complicit in the making of the current malaise
Crap! If we need the media to tell us what's wrong we got bigger problems. than I thought. The problem is in the team and coaching team is probably part of it.
They are there to hold the coach and NZRU to account supposedly. Because they arenāt listening to Joe Public
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I would settle for the Foster era right now!
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I would settle for the Foster era right now!
@Devon-Kiwi said in England Vs All Blacks:
I would settle for the Foster era right now!
Before or after Schmidt? Careful

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@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
The obvious hard calls are:
BB retires,
Taylor becomes captain,
Roigard vice captain,
Jordan goes to wing,
I'd put JB at 15
QT, LF mid field,
DMac 10 and kicksI'd keep JB (once fit again) in the midfield and put Ruben Love at 15, but I agree with the rest.
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
The obvious hard calls are:
BB retires,
Taylor becomes captain,
Roigard vice captain,
Jordan goes to wing,
I'd put JB at 15
QT, LF mid field,
DMac 10 and kicksI'd keep JB (once fit again) in the midfield and put Ruben Love at 15, but I agree with the rest.
No problem with that. QT deserves to be there somewhere
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I think itās difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they canāt win important games & itās rares it head in the All Blacks
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think itās difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they canāt win important games & itās rares it head in the All Blacks
Yeah I struggle to see how Razor's failings can't be laid at the feet of foster and the players.
Razor didn't select these players and hasn't been allowed any coaching input until today.
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That yellow was a total hammer blow
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What a contrast with the Boks
@Devon-Kiwi said in England Vs All Blacks:
What a contrast with the Boks
NZ are nearing where the Boks were in 2017
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Apparently Robertson thought his team played "some really good rugby"
That's some bullshit right there.

@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
Apparently Robertson thought his team played "some really good rugby"
That's some bullshit right there.

They were hungry before the game?
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@Devon-Kiwi said in England Vs All Blacks:
What a contrast with the Boks
NZ are nearing where the Boks were in 2017
@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Devon-Kiwi said in England Vs All Blacks:
What a contrast with the Boks
NZ are nearing where the Boks were in 2017
5th in the rankings?

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@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
Apparently Robertson thought his team played "some really good rugby"
That's some bullshit right there.

They were hungry before the game?
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
Apparently Robertson thought his team played "some really good rugby"
That's some bullshit right there.

They were hungry before the game?
Finish off our tour proud? Would be nice to have a coach that can speak English properly
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@Dan54 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
It feels like someone wrote the headline before watching the match. The penalty count was 2:1 in New Zealand's favour......

NZ media are complicit in the making of the current malaise
Crap! If we need the media to tell us what's wrong we got bigger problems. than I thought. The problem is in the team and coaching team is probably part of it.
They are there to hold the coach and NZRU to account supposedly. Because they arenāt listening to Joe Public
@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
It feels like someone wrote the headline before watching the match. The penalty count was 2:1 in New Zealand's favour......

NZ media are complicit in the making of the current malaise
Crap! If we need the media to tell us what's wrong we got bigger problems. than I thought. The problem is in the team and coaching team is probably part of it.
They are there to hold the coach and NZRU to account supposedly. Because they arenāt listening to Joe Public
Naa mate , the press in every country are there for one reason, to sell papers or get people to watch them on TV/podcasts etc. If we trying to blame press for ABs performances in anyway we are really in a bad way. I think we lost because our players/coaches weren't good enough is all!