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All Blacks v Wales Test #3

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    kiwiinmelb
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    #552

    <p>Im not 100 % sold on Dixon yet as our  future starting test 6 , </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I might have it wrong , but just have concerns  his best at this level may be  efficient , but lack the dominance we have been used to from our 6 , </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But its too early to make that call obviously </p>

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    • MN5M Offline
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      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="592678" data-time="1467138982">
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      <p>Im not 100 % sold on Dixon yet as our  future starting test 6 , </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>I might have it wrong , but just have concerns  his best at this level may be  efficient , but lack the dominance we have been used to from our 6 , </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>But its too early to make that call obviously </p>
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      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="592678" data-time="1467138982">
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      <p>Im not 100 % sold on Dixon yet as our  future starting test 6 , </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>I might have it wrong , but just have concerns  his best at this level may be  efficient , but lack the dominance we have been used to from our 6 , </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>But its too early to make that call obviously </p>
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      </blockquote>
      <p>So the awesome try he got in the final last year was the exception rather than the norm then ?</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>I rarely watch Super Rugby so any and all info on this bloke is appreciated.</p>

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        taniwharugby
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        #554

        <p>he said it himself, he felt good on defence, but found the pace of attack a step up and the lungs burning.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>He's had 1 test and he wasn't rubbish (faint praise I know...) so warrants more time, whether this is in TRC or EOYT is another thing.</p>

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        • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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          kiwiinmelb
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          #555

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="592714" data-time="1467153584"><p>
          So the awesome try he got in the final last year was the exception rather than the norm then ?<br><br>
          I rarely watch Super Rugby so any and all info on this bloke is appreciated.</p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Like I said it's too early , and I don't want to start knocking him because I wish him well . <br><br>
          Just a gut feel we lose some physical authority

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            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="592722" data-time="1467155173">
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            <p>Like I said it's too early , and I don't want to start knocking him because I wish him well .<br><br>
            Just a gut feel we lose some physical authority</p>
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            <p> </p>
            <p>He seems to have a bit of that intangible "hard man" quality from what I've seen. Again, when AB teams were selected up until the late 2000s I had a really good grasp on how good player xyz was based on lots of Super Rugby but as life has moved on I've found fuck all time to watch so have to resort to youse fullas letting me know.</p>

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            • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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              #557

              And we have to be careful using Kaino as the bench mark , we can fall into the trap of taking players for granted , kaino is made of granite , and maybe whoever we choose is going to fall short of him in that area .

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                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="592727" data-time="1467155960">
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                <p>And we have to be careful using Kaino as the bench mark , we can fall into the trap of taking players for granted , kaino is made of granite , and maybe whoever we choose is going to fall short of him in that area .</p>
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                <p> </p>
                <p>The dearly departed bloke who wore the jersey before him was too. Funny how Messam doesn't have that aura as much despite his pugilistic skills. I guess not quite having the same sting his tackles is part of the reason for that.</p>

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                  #559

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="592727" data-time="1467155960">
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                  <p>And we have to be careful using Kaino as the bench mark , we can fall into the trap of taking players for granted , kaino is made of granite , and maybe whoever we choose is going to fall short of him in that area .</p>
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                  <p> </p>
                  <p>No shame in falling short of that benchmark at this stage of his career.  When they started at international level neither Kaino or Messam had anything close to the physical presence they have now.</p>

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                  • R Offline
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                    reprobate
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                    <p>i felt that way about dixon before watching that super final, and it changed my mind: it was the biggest game of the season with some pretty damn good ABs playing, and he was a comfortable man of the match in my opinion.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>new environment, new players around him, new combinations and patterns - a solid performance first up, but he'll get better. displacing kaino is not going to be an easy feat, and steven luatua has the potential to be one hell of a player too. it's good to be a new zealander.</p>

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                      #561

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="592767" data-time="1467165127">
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                      <p>i felt that way about dixon before watching that super final, and it changed my mind: it was the biggest game of the season with some pretty damn good ABs playing, and he was a comfortable man of the match in my opinion.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>new environment, new players around him, new combinations and patterns - a solid performance first up, but he'll get better. displacing kaino is not going to be an easy feat, and steven luatua has the potential to be one hell of a player too. it's good to be a new zealander.</p>
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                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Hopefully Ioane will be the replacement for Kaino at six unless he is put at eight.  Or perhaps we play too sixes. Cant wait to see him in the AB environment.</p>

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                        Toddy
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                        #562

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="592664" data-time="1467111726">
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                        <p>I don't think he was amaszing, but neither was Ardie in his 2, and talking about purely as an impact off the bench & adding linebreaking punch, Squire did more than Ardie.</p>
                        <p> </p>
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                        <p>In test one, but not in test two.</p>

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