Olympics Thread
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The pole vault is the best field event imo. Any medal for nz would be great.
@Billy-Tell said in Olympics Thread:
The pole vault is the best field event imo.
The anticipation, the drama, the Superman fairytale of leaping tall buildings in a single bound, plus the crowd involvement - it rarely ever fails to deliver on the big stage. Love it.
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The women's pole vault was fascinating. Both UK women flamed out and failed to record a height, when all they needed to do was something well below each of their PBs. Just got the yips completely.
I really do feel for those athletes. All they are training for is this one moment. Days, months, years all put in, and you just shit the bed totally, for the world to see. Brutal.
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
The women's pole vault was fascinating. Both UK women flamed out and failed to record a height, when all they needed to do was something well below each of their PBs. Just got the yips completely.
I really do feel for those athletes. All they are training for is this one moment. Days, months, years all put in, and you just shit the bed totally, for the world to see. Brutal.
Crazy that there are 20 in the final, 11 cleared 4.55 and they needed one more - and 9 had cleared 4.40 on their first attempt. Could be anyone's to win now, or anyone who gets close to their best.
So many athletes fail to give their best when they need it - must be difficult when the Olympics is SUCH a big thing. So many things can go wrong with the pole vault, no height is a given - unless you're the Swedish guy of course.
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OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
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OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
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like it
i stopped taking triathlon competition seriously when they allowed drafting in the cycle leg
could maybe take the cycling leg off the road and go mountain biking@mohikamo said in Olympics Thread:
like it
i stopped taking triathlon competition seriously when they allowed drafting in the cycle leg
could maybe take the cycling leg off the road and go mountain bikingThey have to allow drafting, otherwise you'd need 300 officials on the bike course on motorbikes enforcing subjective penalties and you could also never hold a race in a tight urban setting.
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OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
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@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
OK great. Then the cyclists can do cycling, and the runners can do running.
No need for the sport then. Fixed
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@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
OK great. Then the cyclists can do cycling, and the runners can do running.
No need for the sport then. Fixed
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
OK great. Then the cyclists can do cycling, and the runners can do running.
No need for the sport then. Fixed
The point of the event is that you are the best at the end of all 3. Just like the decathlon, you have to compete in order for a reason
If you don't like one of the disciplines, maybe triathlon isn't for you
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@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
If we can do well in the canoeing and the indoor cycling we will still have a very good games
Big chance of a haul from track.
VERY good chance of gold.. should be cert podiums.
Womens team pursuit.
Ally omnium
Gatie omnium
Gatie / Stewart MaddisonHigh chance of medals
Ellesse kierin / sprintGood chance of medals
Mens TP
Womens Team sprint (long shot but cnz boys reckon they're hitting some numbers and our dark horse!)@WillieTheWaiter I know a guy who was a mechanic for one of the top teams in Europe for a few years.
He's as bullish as you. Said three will be disappointed with bronze and a couple more to podium
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do you hate triathlon because you can't do it from home?
@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
do you hate triathlon because you can't do it from home?
Again, I'm against full time work from home. You've got to find the balance.
So you should have to do two legs at the venue, but be permitted to do one leg at home.
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@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
OK great. Then the cyclists can do cycling, and the runners can do running.
No need for the sport then. Fixed
The point of the event is that you are the best at the end of all 3. Just like the decathlon, you have to compete in order for a reason
If you don't like one of the disciplines, maybe triathlon isn't for you
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
OK great. Then the cyclists can do cycling, and the runners can do running.
No need for the sport then. Fixed
The point of the event is that you are the best at the end of all 3. Just like the decathlon, you have to compete in order for a reason
If you don't like one of the disciplines, maybe triathlon isn't for you
Look, this is all bullshit anyway because it isn't going to happen. But for the sake of argument... what's the reason you have to compete in order?
Surely the point of the event is to measure who is the cumulative best across the three disciplines. So in that regard it shouldn't matter what order that you complete them.
Now if drafting was banned (which it is at amateur level) then it's a different story. The whole point of my change is the acknowledgement that the cycling leg is compromised by drafting, so trying to minimise that advantage as best I can.
I suspect if this WAS to happen then over time the athletes would conform to one or two ways of doing it, so they can gain the most advantage by cycling with the most others. But it would be an interesting experiment.
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@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
OK great. Then the cyclists can do cycling, and the runners can do running.
No need for the sport then. Fixed
The point of the event is that you are the best at the end of all 3. Just like the decathlon, you have to compete in order for a reason
If you don't like one of the disciplines, maybe triathlon isn't for you
Look, this is all bullshit anyway because it isn't going to happen. But for the sake of argument... what's the reason you have to compete in order?
Surely the point of the event is to measure who is the cumulative best across the three disciplines. So in that regard it shouldn't matter what order that you complete them.
Now if drafting was banned (which it is at amateur level) then it's a different story. The whole point of my change is the acknowledgement that the cycling leg is compromised by drafting, so trying to minimise that advantage as best I can.
I suspect if this WAS to happen then over time the athletes would conform to one or two ways of doing it, so they can gain the most advantage by cycling with the most others. But it would be an interesting experiment.
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
@canefan said in Olympics Thread:
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
OK so another idea I have to improve the Olympics: we've established here the Triathlon isn't fair as the swimmers don't get the benefit for their skills, generally being reeled in easily in the cycle leg by the chasing pack.
So you should be allowed to complete the three legs in any order you like. Will make the event chaotic, which is what we all want. To build a bit of tension we can put the finish line at the end of a 100m sprint, so everyone has to finish the same way at the same place.
If you want to be rewarded for your swimming, be a swimmer. Fixed
OK great. Then the cyclists can do cycling, and the runners can do running.
No need for the sport then. Fixed
The point of the event is that you are the best at the end of all 3. Just like the decathlon, you have to compete in order for a reason
If you don't like one of the disciplines, maybe triathlon isn't for you
Look, this is all bullshit anyway because it isn't going to happen. But for the sake of argument... what's the reason you have to compete in order?
Surely the point of the event is to measure who is the cumulative best across the three disciplines. So in that regard it shouldn't matter what order that you complete them.
Now if drafting was banned (which it is at amateur level) then it's a different story. The whole point of my change is the acknowledgement that the cycling leg is compromised by drafting, so trying to minimise that advantage as best I can.
I suspect if this WAS to happen then over time the athletes would conform to one or two ways of doing it, so they can gain the most advantage by cycling with the most others. But it would be an interesting experiment.
It's starting to sound like you're actually advocating for this now rather than just taking the piss - but there a bunch of reasons for doing it in order, mostly safety and organisational efficiency. You'd need to staff the water all race, keep the roads closed for both bike and run all race, transition would be a total clusterfuck. And nobody would have the slightest clue what is going on.
It would be the equivalent of allowing 10,000m runners to each decide what direction to run around the track...
Hang on a second...
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No it wouldn't. Because that's actually unsafe and a bit silly.
You said 'there's a reason competitors have to complete it in order'. I pressed, and according to you the main reason is 'organisational efficiency'. Which to me isn't much of a reason at all. It's the Olympics, of course they can keep the roads closed and the water staffed. The race only goes for an hour or two.
Now of course for other triathlons it's completely ridiculous.
EDIT: I suppose in my proposal you couldn't have the cyclists and runners together on the same course, but it wouldn't be too hard to split them off so you don't have people run over.
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No it wouldn't. Because that's actually unsafe and a bit silly.
You said 'there's a reason competitors have to complete it in order'. I pressed, and according to you the main reason is 'organisational efficiency'. Which to me isn't much of a reason at all. It's the Olympics, of course they can keep the roads closed and the water staffed. The race only goes for an hour or two.
Now of course for other triathlons it's completely ridiculous.
EDIT: I suppose in my proposal you couldn't have the cyclists and runners together on the same course, but it wouldn't be too hard to split them off so you don't have people run over.
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
EDIT: I suppose in my proposal you couldn't have the cyclists and runners together on the same course, but it wouldn't be too hard to split them off so you don't have people run over.
Why not make it a spectator sport?
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I'd do the swim leg in the bath.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I'd do the swim leg in the bath.
Smart. Avoid a lengthy commute AND an E.Coli infection, so you're winning on two counts there.
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@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
EDIT: I suppose in my proposal you couldn't have the cyclists and runners together on the same course, but it wouldn't be too hard to split them off so you don't have people run over.
Why not make it a spectator sport?
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No it wouldn't. Because that's actually unsafe and a bit silly.
You said 'there's a reason competitors have to complete it in order'. I pressed, and according to you the main reason is 'organisational efficiency'. Which to me isn't much of a reason at all. It's the Olympics, of course they can keep the roads closed and the water staffed. The race only goes for an hour or two.
Now of course for other triathlons it's completely ridiculous.
EDIT: I suppose in my proposal you couldn't have the cyclists and runners together on the same course, but it wouldn't be too hard to split them off so you don't have people run over.
@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
No it wouldn't. Because that's actually unsafe and a bit silly.
You said 'there's a reason competitors have to complete it in order'. I pressed, and according to you the main reason is 'organisational efficiency'. Which to me isn't much of a reason at all. It's the Olympics, of course they can keep the roads closed and the water staffed. The race only goes for an hour or two.
Now of course for other triathlons it's completely ridiculous.
EDIT: I suppose in my proposal you couldn't have the cyclists and runners together on the same course, but it wouldn't be too hard to split them off so you don't have people run over.
Silly me - I hadn't made the entirely logical leap that the Olympic event was going to be an entirely different format that couldn't be replicated in a single non-Olympic race, ever - so they basically do it this way once every 4 years.
Makes way more sense, as you were
