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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    This all points to provincial rugby missing out if NZR has to reduce overall costs.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/121374638/the-figures-in-the-nz-rugby-books-that-will-make-the-provinces-nervous

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      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12328963

      Could Spark buy Sky? Stock price is $0.28.

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        Prospects of Sam Whitelock,Ryan Crotty and Matt Todd playing for Canterbury this year looking more likely
        Jordan Taufua to turn out for Ta$man maybe
        Mitre 10 may be beefed up this year

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        • ChrisC Chris

          Prospects of Sam Whitelock,Ryan Crotty and Matt Todd playing for Canterbury this year looking more likely
          Jordan Taufua to turn out for Ta$man maybe
          Mitre 10 may be beefed up this year

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          @Chris I wouldn't be so sure about that. It all depends on whether the players who are still contracted to clubs in the NH get permission from their clubs. I recently read somewhere that - for that reason - Brodie Retallick might not be allowed to play for the Magpies.

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            @Chris I wouldn't be so sure about that. It all depends on whether the players who are still contracted to clubs in the NH get permission from their clubs. I recently read somewhere that - for that reason - Brodie Retallick might not be allowed to play for the Magpies.

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            @Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            @Chris I wouldn't be so sure about that. It all depends on whether the players who are still contracted to clubs in the NH get permission from their clubs. I recently read somewhere that - for that reason - Brodie Retallick might not be allowed to play for the Magpies.

            Crotty and Todd are Japan based. I hear they have permission . Whitelock is still contracted to the Crusaders and with his top league season finished will play.

            Taufua was speculation

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              This all points to provincial rugby missing out if NZR has to reduce overall costs.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/121374638/the-figures-in-the-nz-rugby-books-that-will-make-the-provinces-nervous

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              @Bovidae that article should be why New Zealand Rugby should be embarrassed with their own ineptitude ..

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                Hardly a secret.

                There is no place like home, just ask All Black and Gallagher Chiefs halfback Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi who has signed to play for the Bay of Plenty Steamers.  The 25-year-old has always had plans to return home to play his rugby.
                

                https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/tahuriorangi-signs-with-the-bay-of-plenty

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                • BovidaeB Offline
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                  I was reading about George's passing this morning.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/121450181/international-rugby-community-farewells-innovative-coach-george-simpkin

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                  • Chris B.C Offline
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                    #2473

                    NZ Rugby grants to provincial unions in 2019

                    Auckland – $2.79m

                    Canterbury – $2.54m

                    Waikato – $2.17m

                    Bay of Plenty – $2.12m

                    Wellington – $2.06m

                    Counties Manukau – $2.06m

                    Northland – $1.96m

                    North Harbour –$1.91m

                    Otago – $1.83m

                    Taranaki – $1.83m

                    *Hawke's Bay – $1.82m

                    Ta$man – $1.75m*

                    Manawatu – $1.66m

                    Southland – $1.44m

                    Hey @Nepia

                    To quote an old Rowan Atkinson line, "Grant not big enough, eh?" :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      NZ Rugby grants to provincial unions in 2019

                      Auckland – $2.79m

                      Canterbury – $2.54m

                      Waikato – $2.17m

                      Bay of Plenty – $2.12m

                      Wellington – $2.06m

                      Counties Manukau – $2.06m

                      Northland – $1.96m

                      North Harbour –$1.91m

                      Otago – $1.83m

                      Taranaki – $1.83m

                      *Hawke's Bay – $1.82m

                      Ta$man – $1.75m*

                      Manawatu – $1.66m

                      Southland – $1.44m

                      Hey @Nepia

                      To quote an old Rowan Atkinson line, "Grant not big enough, eh?" :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

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                      #2474

                      @Chris-B Ta$man must have some wealthy benefactors, or their players are happy to take less from the province because their ABs and franchise contracts are so front loaded?

                      I wonder what the grants cover? Why does BoP get so much? I would have thought giving Southland more would make sense so they could compete a bit better in the player poaching market with their SI contemporaries.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Chris-B Ta$man must have some wealthy benefactors, or their players are happy to take less from the province because their ABs and franchise contracts are so front loaded?

                        I wonder what the grants cover? Why does BoP get so much? I would have thought giving Southland more would make sense so they could compete a bit better in the player poaching market with their SI contemporaries.

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                        @Nepia I suspect the players come because Ta$man's fans are so great! πŸ™‚

                        Grants - I suspect they're done on club player numbers?

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Nepia I suspect the players come because Ta$man's fans are so great! πŸ™‚

                          Grants - I suspect they're done on club player numbers?

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                          @Chris-B said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                          @Nepia I suspect the players come because Ta$man's fans are so great! πŸ™‚

                          Grants - I suspect they're done on club player numbers?

                          Possibly, would Northland have higher club player numbers than Harbour, Otago and the Naki though?

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Chris-B said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                            @Nepia I suspect the players come because Ta$man's fans are so great! πŸ™‚

                            Grants - I suspect they're done on club player numbers?

                            Possibly, would Northland have higher club player numbers than Harbour, Otago and the Naki though?

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                            @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                            @Chris-B said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                            @Nepia I suspect the players come because Ta$man's fans are so great! πŸ™‚

                            Grants - I suspect they're done on club player numbers?

                            Possibly, would Northland have higher club player numbers than Harbour, Otago and the Naki though?

                            They're Northlanders - they'll be cooking the books! πŸ™‚

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Chris-B said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                              @Nepia I suspect the players come because Ta$man's fans are so great! πŸ™‚

                              Grants - I suspect they're done on club player numbers?

                              Possibly, would Northland have higher club player numbers than Harbour, Otago and the Naki though?

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                              @Nepia last data I saw (5 or 6 years old) Northland had about 7th or 8th highest player numbers...but must be other factors as NH had about 4th highest in same report?

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Nepia last data I saw (5 or 6 years old) Northland had about 7th or 8th highest player numbers...but must be other factors as NH had about 4th highest in same report?

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                                #2479

                                @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                @Nepia last data I saw (5 or 6 years old) Northland had about 7th or 8th highest player numbers

                                Oh sweet, that tracks then.

                                @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                but must be other factors as NH had about 4th highest in same report?

                                Or maybe not. πŸ™‚

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                  @Nepia I did add some to my post too, there have to be other factors too.

                                  Yeah, it would be interesting to know what this money is actually for - @Chris-B is light on further info. πŸ˜‰

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                    @Nepia I did add some to my post too, there have to be other factors too.

                                    Yeah, it would be interesting to know what this money is actually for - @Chris-B is light on further info. πŸ˜‰

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                                    taniwharugby
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                                    #2481

                                    @Nepia probably just to assist with player contracts, loss of income (gate, sponsors etc)

                                    Would Provincial Unions been able to claim wage subsidy for thier M10 Cup players?

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                      @Nepia I did add some to my post too, there have to be other factors too.

                                      Yeah, it would be interesting to know what this money is actually for - @Chris-B is light on further info. πŸ˜‰

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                                      #2482

                                      @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                      @Nepia I did add some to my post too, there have to be other factors too.

                                      Yeah, it would be interesting to know what this money is actually for - @Chris-B is light on further info. πŸ˜‰

                                      Whatever the provincial unions want to spend it on.

                                      For unions like Hawkes Bay and Ta$man, the grant is about half of their annual revenue (the majority of unions are somewhere around $4 million) - and they probably spend about half of their annual revenue on their M10 Cup team (the rest is classified as "Growing the game" or "Administration").

                                      I'm just preparing y'all for disappointment when the 2019 accounts come out later this year and Ta$man hasn't broken the bank on player payments. πŸ™‚

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                        @Nepia I did add some to my post too, there have to be other factors too.

                                        Yeah, it would be interesting to know what this money is actually for - @Chris-B is light on further info. πŸ˜‰

                                        Whatever the provincial unions want to spend it on.

                                        For unions like Hawkes Bay and Ta$man, the grant is about half of their annual revenue (the majority of unions are somewhere around $4 million) - and they probably spend about half of their annual revenue on their M10 Cup team (the rest is classified as "Growing the game" or "Administration").

                                        I'm just preparing y'all for disappointment when the 2019 accounts come out later this year and Ta$man hasn't broken the bank on player payments. πŸ™‚

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                                        Nepia
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                                        #2483

                                        @Chris-B The Roosters never break the bank either .... at least on the books.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                          @Nepia I did add some to my post too, there have to be other factors too.

                                          Yeah, it would be interesting to know what this money is actually for - @Chris-B is light on further info. πŸ˜‰

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                                          @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                          @Nepia I did add some to my post too, there have to be other factors too.

                                          Yeah, it would be interesting to know what this money is actually for - @Chris-B is light on further info. πŸ˜‰

                                          Grants Based on playing numbers within the Region ? Maybe

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