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2016-2017 World Sevens Series

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    What a disgrace. The ref completely fucked the AB7s over.

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      NZ penalised for having 8 men on the field because Scotland started the play quickly while the NZ player was still leaving the field. Total joke. Unbelievable. This has cost them the semi-final.

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        NZ 7s completely blew that. You could see it coming. Sums up their season completely.

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          NZ 7s completely blew that. You could see it coming. Sums up their season completely.

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          @KiwiMurph Don't think they blew it. The ref did.

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            Why you blaming the ref?

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              @KiwiMurph Don't think they blew it. The ref did.

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              @Stargazer They conceded 4 tries in the second half. They bottled it. For a second I thought the Stormers v Blues ref Van Heerden was reffing when Dickson smashed a scot in the face and didnt get yellowed.

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                Why you blaming the ref?

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                @JustAnotherFan Because he penalised the AB7s for something that wasn't their fault (that a player who was subbed off was still on the field when the Scots took the quick tap & the AB7s were deemed to be "playing" with 8 men which was absolutely nonsense). If anyone is to blame, it's the sideline official who let the new player on before the other player had left the field.

                That penalty enabled the Scots to score a try.

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                  Then blame the sideline official. Not the ref. But rules are rules. It is not 7 vs 8. NZ got away with it 2 years ago and won the game. So to be honest. Suck it up.

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                    Then blame the sideline official. Not the ref. But rules are rules. It is not 7 vs 8. NZ got away with it 2 years ago and won the game. So to be honest. Suck it up.

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                    @JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.

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                      Anyway, this was just a recruitment and testing year. Hopefully, the new coach can do better next season with a few new and better players. This season was already lost.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.

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                        @Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

                        @JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.

                        The previous one was why they have become stringent on it. NZ 7s need to come back from this season. They are being left behind a bit.

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                          @Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

                          @JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.

                          The previous one was why they have become stringent on it. NZ 7s need to come back from this season. They are being left behind a bit.

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                          @JustAnotherFan That's because NZR doesn't give enough priority to sevens. Mismanagement IMO. Also completely stupid to hire a new coach who can only start after the season and appointing an incompetent interim coach.

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                            That's not the first time NZ have been run down from a big lead this season. Happened multiple times - almost happened in pool play vs Canada.

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                              @JustAnotherFan That's because NZR doesn't give enough priority to sevens. Mismanagement IMO. Also completely stupid to hire a new coach who can only start after the season and appointing an incompetent interim coach.

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                              @Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

                              @JustAnotherFan That's because NZR doesn't give enough priority to sevens. Mismanagement IMO. Also completely stupid to hire a new coach who can only start after the season and appointing an incompetent interim coach.

                              Please explain where the lack of priority is. If it is player availability then you cannot force a player to play 7s if they prefer to play proper rugby instead. A 7s contract can be offered to prospective players but there is no compulsion on them to accept it.

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                                Oh well Blitzbokke can only make 8 out of 10 finals this year. Nothing to cry about. Anyway i must find an article on what they are doing different on the professional side to step up.

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                                  @Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

                                  @JustAnotherFan That's because NZR doesn't give enough priority to sevens. Mismanagement IMO. Also completely stupid to hire a new coach who can only start after the season and appointing an incompetent interim coach.

                                  Please explain where the lack of priority is. If it is player availability then you cannot force a player to play 7s if they prefer to play proper rugby instead. A 7s contract can be offered to prospective players but there is no compulsion on them to accept it.

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                                  @Higgins Centralisation is one major issue, it has been discussed to death last year. Also, indecisiveness on where sevens sits.

                                  Referring to XVs as "proper rugby" like you do (implying that sevens is something inferior), is exactly what's wrong with the attitude towards sevens in NZ. XVs is not more "proper rugby" than sevens. They are two different codes with different required skill sets and should be treated as such like in other countries, including developing specialist 7s players from junior rugby up. Attracting players from other codes (like they've done in the successful women's Going for Gold programme) should also be done; don't just fish in the same pond as XVs.

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                                    Things that Blitzbokke have got right are centralised contracts, 7s academy (which is where the guys are coming from instead of going to XV. The academy team is playing in other tournaments), the 7s are using modern facilities (Stellenbosch Academy of Sport)

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                                      Article from November 2016:

                                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/86555774/New-Zealand-sevens-coach-Clark-Laidlaw-says-centralisation-on-the-radar

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                                        Aus 40 NZ 7s 7. Scary shit.

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                                          The AB7s have clearly given up. Completely smashed by the Aussies:
                                          40-7. Terrible.

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