2016-2017 World Sevens Series
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@KiwiMurph Don't think they blew it. The ref did.
@Stargazer They conceded 4 tries in the second half. They bottled it. For a second I thought the Stormers v Blues ref Van Heerden was reffing when Dickson smashed a scot in the face and didnt get yellowed.
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Why you blaming the ref?
@JustAnotherFan Because he penalised the AB7s for something that wasn't their fault (that a player who was subbed off was still on the field when the Scots took the quick tap & the AB7s were deemed to be "playing" with 8 men which was absolutely nonsense). If anyone is to blame, it's the sideline official who let the new player on before the other player had left the field.
That penalty enabled the Scots to score a try.
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Then blame the sideline official. Not the ref. But rules are rules. It is not 7 vs 8. NZ got away with it 2 years ago and won the game. So to be honest. Suck it up.
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Then blame the sideline official. Not the ref. But rules are rules. It is not 7 vs 8. NZ got away with it 2 years ago and won the game. So to be honest. Suck it up.
@JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.
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@JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.
@Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:
@JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.
The previous one was why they have become stringent on it. NZ 7s need to come back from this season. They are being left behind a bit.
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@Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:
@JustAnotherFan Two wrongs doesn't make it right.
The previous one was why they have become stringent on it. NZ 7s need to come back from this season. They are being left behind a bit.
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@JustAnotherFan That's because NZR doesn't give enough priority to sevens. Mismanagement IMO. Also completely stupid to hire a new coach who can only start after the season and appointing an incompetent interim coach.
@Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:
@JustAnotherFan That's because NZR doesn't give enough priority to sevens. Mismanagement IMO. Also completely stupid to hire a new coach who can only start after the season and appointing an incompetent interim coach.
Please explain where the lack of priority is. If it is player availability then you cannot force a player to play 7s if they prefer to play proper rugby instead. A 7s contract can be offered to prospective players but there is no compulsion on them to accept it.
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Oh well Blitzbokke can only make 8 out of 10 finals this year. Nothing to cry about. Anyway i must find an article on what they are doing different on the professional side to step up.
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@Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:
@JustAnotherFan That's because NZR doesn't give enough priority to sevens. Mismanagement IMO. Also completely stupid to hire a new coach who can only start after the season and appointing an incompetent interim coach.
Please explain where the lack of priority is. If it is player availability then you cannot force a player to play 7s if they prefer to play proper rugby instead. A 7s contract can be offered to prospective players but there is no compulsion on them to accept it.
@Higgins Centralisation is one major issue, it has been discussed to death last year. Also, indecisiveness on where sevens sits.
Referring to XVs as "proper rugby" like you do (implying that sevens is something inferior), is exactly what's wrong with the attitude towards sevens in NZ. XVs is not more "proper rugby" than sevens. They are two different codes with different required skill sets and should be treated as such like in other countries, including developing specialist 7s players from junior rugby up. Attracting players from other codes (like they've done in the successful women's Going for Gold programme) should also be done; don't just fish in the same pond as XVs.
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Things that Blitzbokke have got right are centralised contracts, 7s academy (which is where the guys are coming from instead of going to XV. The academy team is playing in other tournaments), the 7s are using modern facilities (Stellenbosch Academy of Sport)
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Aus 40 NZ 7s 7. Scary shit.
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It was a shocking game by us. Falling off tackles at will and just gave away possession. Well done to the Aussies though. Put us through the wringer and retained possession well.
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Played like a bunch of amateurs, embarrassing.
The thing which kills my spirit is when you see guys like Booth, Joass, Ormond, etc who if you saw them playing for Japan or Russia or something, you'd think they were a plucky battler. These guys just aren't the calibre of player we're used to seeing in the NZ 7's.
Think Scooter was a bit out of his depth too. The stark contrast is whenever they cut to the halftime huddles and he's there saying basic, generic stuff - "Let's keep our d-line", etc, then they cut to the other huddle and the opposition coach is bringing up detailed observations and tactics from the first half.
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More than half the NZ squad has been gradually introduced this year, on average two new players per tournament, Houston and Samuels this tournament. All due to an incredible number of injuries and several of last year's players leaving (including the Ioane brothers and Kaka). The most talented newbie (Koroi) has been handed over to his Mitre 10 Club side. I guess we couldn't expect much more with an equally inexperienced coach.
Apart from lack of experience, the constant changes in the squad didn't help creating good combinations. The players simply didn't know each other well enough on the field.
Looking forward to next year, with hopefully some positive changes.
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That's not the first time NZ have been run down from a big lead this season. Happened multiple times - almost happened in pool play vs Canada.
@KiwiMurph said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:
That's not the first time NZ have been run down from a big lead this season. Happened multiple times - almost happened in pool play vs Canada.
I wonder why. Fitness? Loss of concentration? Is it an age thing (so many young players)?
