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Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    #851

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mick Gold Coast QLD" data-cid="608125" data-time="1471861428">
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I think there is another 35 points and more margin coming up!</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Among other interesting odds NZ TAB has</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>ABs at $1.07; Wallabies at $7.50.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Wallabies to take the Bledisloe $31</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>They're giving  the Wallabies 19.5 points headstart at evens.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> Ta$man are at $3.75 to beat Canterbury in ChCh, which looks bloody unlikely to me - but apparently twice as likely as the Wallabies!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Might be worth a small bet on the Wallabies and some prayers for yellow cards.  :)</p>

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    • NTAN Offline
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      NTA
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      #852

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="608253" data-time="1471910326">
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      <p>Yep, the guy is a farking unit and a half. He should be wrecking ball but I'm not sure I've seen him ever break a tackle. His ball skills are also incredibly limited for a guy who used to be a back and used to force his brothers into help him practice passing.</p>
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      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Not really - when you've got a private school system as blinkered as ours, as long as he was a bit bigger and stronger than most of his opponents, he'd be a great back in GPS.</p>

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      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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        taniwharugby
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        #853

        <p><img src="https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051775_652541271580067_4775217163419110762_n.jpg?oh=2bacbdc54ca864947469431baf0e93e1&amp;oe=5859A698" alt="14051775_652541271580067_477521716341911"></p>

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        • VirgilV Offline
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          Virgil
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          #854

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="608381" data-time="1471935577"><p><img src="https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051775_652541271580067_4775217163419110762_n.jpg?oh=2bacbdc54ca864947469431baf0e93e1&amp;oe=5859A698" alt="14051775_652541271580067_477521716341911"></p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Richie, Dan, Conrad, Ma'a, Kevin, Tony..

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            canefan
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            #855

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Virgil" data-cid="608383" data-time="1471935703"><p>Richie, Dan, Conrad, Ma'a, Kevin, Tony..</p></blockquote>And a bunch of the replacements are out too, and our hooker had a bunch of painkilling injections and couldn't scrummage or tackle that hard...

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            • gollumG Offline
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              gollum
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              #856

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="608278" data-time="1471912135">
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              <p>Also weirdly not physical in the tackle either.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Obviously the bloke would take my head off, but in the tackle you don't see him able to be as dominant as a guy like Read or McCaw was and there really is no physical reason for that  - it's simply technique/mindset. He doesn't wrap the potential offload and very rarely gets a guy moving backwards.</p>
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              <p>I think part of that is his pilfer technique. Richie & George Smith were outstanding at making the tackle, sort of letting go, leaping to their feet & grabbing the ball. Pocock almost seems to want to give guys a little shove & let their momentum take them down while he remains standing the whole time - so he can then get straight on the ball. It works well for the 3 or 4 turnovers he gets, but it means his other 10 or 15 tackles have zero bite & let the opposition get front foot ball. Or worse bury him in a ruck.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Its not helped by the overall lack of bite in the backrow, a lot of our turnovers to Read or Rodney or McCaw over the years came as they stepped in after Kaino or Collins had smashed a player backwards delaying the support players. No one is doing that hit for the Wallabies right now.</p>

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              • mimicM Offline
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                mimic
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                #857

                <p>wallabies don't need to smash players backwards.. they let the ball carriers break thru the line and get isolated.. and and then they pounce.. they're strong enough to survive the cleanout..</p>

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                • P Offline
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                  pakman
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                  #858

                  He is slow. Same thing happened many moons ago when Simon Poidevin bulked up. Went from a farking nuisance 7 to a respectable 6.

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                  • I Offline
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                    infidel
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                    #859

                    I found this on a Guardian comments board.<br><br>
                    "Right guys, so we're agreed, the plan is: four tries in the first half, then we go easy on them for a bit.<br>
                    :fart noise: <br>
                    Ohh, nice one, Dane."

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                      Errol
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                      #860

                      <div style="font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);">
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;"><scuttlebutt></span></div>
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;">Apparetly "Australia was working on some new defensive wrinkles prior to Saturday's game". </span></div>
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"> </div>
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                      <div style="font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);">
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;">But then their defence was a disaster, dropping off 38 tackles and conceding six tries.</span></div>
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"> </div>
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;">So, almost as if the Wallabies coaches <em>thought</em> they had some new information about how the ABs might attack, but then that information turned out to be false...</span></div>
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                      <div style="font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);">
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;">Reminder: there was a six day gap between that bug in the AB rooms being discovered and being reported.</span></div>
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"> </div>
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                      <div style="font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);">
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-union/wallabies-defence-woes-easy-fix-nathan-grey-20160821-gqxxqd.html'>http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-union/wallabies-defence-woes-easy-fix-nathan-grey-20160821-gqxxqd.html</a></span></div>
                      <div style="font-family:inherit;"> </div>
                      </div>
                      <p><span style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"></scuttlebutt></span></p>

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                      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                        taniwharugby
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                        #861

                        The bugging saga continues, with Aussie police not ruling out the bug being planted by someone in the NZ camp...

                        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/83937099/nsw-police-say-they-are-keeping-an-open-mind-over-all-blacks-bugging-incident

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                        • NTAN Offline
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                          NTA
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                          #862

                          Fuck is it still a thing?

                          I reckon if you've left it 5 days between finding it and notifying police, well, you don't give many shits about it.

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                            taniwharugby
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                            #863

                            I think they alerted the Hotel promptly but it was them that delayed telling the police?

                            I suspect you would want to find the source wouldn't you? ARU would want their 'good name' cleared, Hotel would want themselves cleared of any part in it....?

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                            • No QuarterN Online
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                              No Quarter
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                              #864

                              The media love a good headline eh. "So have you ruled out the possibility that the ABs bugged themselves??" "We haven't ruled anything out, we are still investigating".

                              Headline: ABs bugged their own room!!!!!

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                                antipodean
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                                #865

                                If only the players put as much effort in their skills sessions as the media does making asinine suggestions.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  The media love a good headline eh. "So have you ruled out the possibility that the ABs bugged themselves??" "We haven't ruled anything out, we are still investigating".

                                  Headline: ABs bugged their own room!!!!!

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                                  booboo
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                                  @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):

                                  The media love a good headline eh. "So have you ruled out the possibility that the ABs bugged themselves??" "We haven't ruled anything out, we are still investigating".

                                  Headline: ABs bugged their own room!!!!!

                                  Aussie media desparate to make the ABs the villains.

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                                    Stargazer
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                                    #867

                                    Had almost forgotten about this.

                                    http://twitter.com/tomdecent/status/828830756239667201

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                                      Stargazer
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                                      Man charged over All Blacks hotel bug

                                      A man has been charged after a listening device was located in a room at a hotel in Sydney’s east last year.
                                      
                                      Police have been investigating allegations a listening device was located in a room at a hotel in Double Bay.
                                      
                                      They say a 51-year-old man had been arrested for public mischief to appear at Waverley Local Court on March 21.
                                      
                                      At the time of the alleged offence, the man was employed as a security consultant.
                                      
                                      The ABC says he was contracted by the All Blacks.
                                      
                                      The All Blacks stayed in the hotel in August last year and the discovery of a listening device dominated headlines on the day of the match against the Wallabies.
                                      
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                                      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                        taniwharugby
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                                        #869

                                        contracted by the ABs?

                                        CSI need to examine his accounts in the Cayman Islands to see all the payments from Qwayde....

                                        So if contracted by the ABs, either they wanted to make it appear they were being spied on, or someone from outside the ABs paid him off to do it in hopes of some intel??

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                                          I think you misread that as I did when I first read it.

                                          I think he was contracted by the AB's to provide security ... and he's been paid off on the side to plant a bug by somebody else.

                                          Not contracted by the AB's to plant a bug. Despite what the Matt Rowleys of this world believe, I'm not into ridiculous conspiracy theories.

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