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    Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..)
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    I wanted to discuss this trap the All Black selectors have seemingly fallen victim to over the past 3-4 years.

    It's this philosophy that seems to be a continuation of Hansen & Foster's 2018-2019 season's mantra of attempting to cram as many of their best or flashiest players into a starting line-up, while completely disregarding the detrimental effect this has on the team's overall balance & the bench.

    Playing Savea at 6/8, selecting two Spencer-like players in McKenzie & B.Barrett for their dual-playmaker axis in 2018 over Mo'unga, etc.

    Intro summary: My biggest issue with Ian Foster's 23-man squad selections, particularly regarding team balance and the distinct differences between the roles & ideal requirements for starting vs bench/impact players.

    Number one. Undersized at 15 and 8, are the All Black's main points of concern going forward for me.

    There are serious team balance issues where I believe Savea & Jacobson's (and likewise McKenzie & J.Barret's) roles are back-to-front. Savea should be used predominantly as an impact player injected against tired legs. McKenzie is another who's impact is far more effectively bottled for when exploiting tiring defenses later-on during physical, highly attritional test matches.

    Savea at just 99kg, is far too lightweight for an international 8, he's more effective at 7, (& most at 20 jersey).

    Ideally, he should be used as our impact loosie (since Cane & Papali'i are more effective starting test-match 7's from a defensive and collision aspect), the same issue applies for DMac.

    Damien is simply not physical enough (neither Offensively or Defensively) for starting at test-level. He runs sideways; gets rag-dolled, and the opposition backline are delighted upon sighting his name on the All Black's starting team-list.

    McKenzie is not an international starting fullback full-stop, he's too short, too lightweight and looses the ball in the collision far too often. And he constantly gets isolated, as he often runs away from his support players.

    Play him against tier-two opponents and he looks a million dollars, play him against big imposing physical sides and he'll get flattened, time and again.

    The Argentina game where the All Black's under-sized backrow got demolished by Matera & Co, is a glaring example of Savea's ineffectiveness at 8.. Ireland 2018, England 2018 & 2019, are other notable examples.

    Ardie doesn't make the meters at 8 he does at SR level - and if he isn't making meters what's the point? He's not particularly adept at any of the other stuff an 8 does. He's not a line-out option either.

    For some perspective.. my current preference for All Black's #8 would probably be:

    1. Akira Ioane
    2. Luke Jacobson
    3. Ethan Blackadder
    4. Hoskins Sotutu/Dalton Papali'i (even out of position!)

    (Daylight)

    1. Ardie Savea..

    As great as Ardie is in terms of highlights at Super Rugby level - there's always significant question marks over his effectiveness against physical packs at test-level. He started at 7 vs England in the RWC Semi and offered nothing.

    (Like McKenzie starting in the back-three) Ardie ruins the balance of the starting back-row. He's playing 8, yet he's only 100 kg. Go look at the matches he played off the bench from 2016-2018, he always had a far more effective impact from the 20 jersey. Very similar to the impact role an 102kg Pete Samu used to carry out for the Crusaders during those 2017/2018 winning seasons.

    Savea & Cane are too small players (103kg vs 100kg) to both start. It destroys the balance of the back-row, as did the Hooper/Pocock combination. Unfortunately, the clueless Foster and Plumtree view Cane & Savea as our starting 7 and 8's going forward (at least) until the 2023 World Cup. Jacobson should be starting 8, Ardie 20.

    Now onto my other issue, swapping the current roles of McKenzie & J.Barrett under Foster (for much the same reason for wanting Savea & Jacobsen roles being reversed).

    DMac is a great player, awesome to watch, but as a starting test-fullback he's a liability, particularly on defense where he's constantly found out of position, and left scrambling to make last man tackles. He's not big enough & doesn't have long enough levers to be our last-line of defense at the back. On attack, he's as unpredictable to his own backline as he is to the opposition. His incessant dancing around behind his own players only allows the opposition time to reset a defensive line that doesn't have to worry too much about DMac passing, because there's no-one to pass to. If there are no gaps, you're not going to create one by running around in circles, run straight and draw defenders. At least in Jordie you have a fullback who will commit defenders. Jordie has the better boot, is better in the air, and a better defender. He will also fit in to a dual-playmaker role if required, as he plays 10 for the Hurricanes most of the time anyway..

    I don't like Jordie at 15 because of his goal kicking, that's just a bonus in certain situations. I like him there because he has the key attributes that you really can't do without as a test-level 15 these days - outstanding under the high-ball and physically really strong on defense. Two things that Dmac lacks which is why I see him as a squad member or bench player at best.

    When in-form, Jordie also has a strong (not fast) running game and can put his outsides away when the opportunities arise. He has the potential to be world-class in that position, however last season after he dominated Super Rugby there the coaches inexplicably out him on the wing which utilizes precisely none of his strengths. It's the 2nd dumbest selection I've ever seen (first being benching Cane in the semi) and it ruined his confidence.

    With David Havili's creativity at 12, he's a 2nd-playermaker in this backline.. surely we do need yet another creative 2nd-playmaker fullback like McKenzie there as well? A bigger more powerful straight running fullback for consistently making it over the advantage-line when the team is going backwards, (Jordie's 100kg frame would be useful for straightening-up the attack & squaring up the opposition's defensive line) would be a better fit in a backline that currently features predominantly lateral/sideways runners in ALB, Havili, McKenzie, Reece, etc..

    Damien is definitely not the type of player we want at fullback right now, especially in an era of ever-increasing physicality & needing domination of the advantage line.

    McKenzie doesn't get proper go-forward, when you're going backwards, he runs sideways and isolates himself from his support players, commonly resulting in turnovers.

    Running backwards & sideways, shuffling the ball on to the next man is insufficient to be an All Black first choice fullback. Poor passes, kicking out on the full, losing possession in contact, not releasing the ball in a tackle situation, etc, etc..

    Jordie is a straight runner who gets huge go-forward & creates momentum shifts for his team when the Hurricanes are regularly getting bullied up-front physically & dominated at the advantage line. Jordie makes huge post-contact metres every time he carries.

    He does the trench work for the Hurricanes, strongest NZ back-three player defensively, regularly makes turnovers on defense, holds people up, carries hard, physically dominant & he uses this to get his Canes out of tricky situations when they're going backwards - and that's regularly.

    I prefer DMac as a 10, height is more valuable in the back-three & Jordie has a more ideal skillset for an international fullback. DMac's helter-skelter style is better suited for blasting teams off the bench. Jordie Barrett's size & physicality is better suited for starting test matches. Sam Cane starting with Ardie Savea off the bench was a similar dynamic than worked extremely well for the All Blacks. It's like with forwards how you ideally start your big abrasive physical guys & inject the nimble scuttlers once the contest has really tightened-up & the opposition forwards are tiring-out, therefore ripe for getting scorched by (more aptly-designed 'bench specialists') - being much smaller, more agile & light-footed players - such as McKenzie.

    In conclusion... Ian Foster needs to seriously consider the differences in the roles & requirements between starting and bench/impact players and how important it is to get this balance right at international level.


  • All Blacks vs Springboks II
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    Our lineout is an embarrassment.

    Our forwards are allergic to attacking breakdown.

    We need a change of players, and a change of coach for the forwards. This is embarrassing at this point. And it's not like this is a new problem, our forwards have been lazy around the breakdown since at least 2018. I don't know why, but any time we get counterrucked, you can be sure there'll be a couple of forwards looking right at it two metres away.

    We seem to deliberately commit the bare minimum number of players to attacking rucks; it may give us an extra pod to pass to but it costs us so much possession and penalties, it's such dumb rugby. But we persist with it anyway. I'm so sick of this shit.

    And to be fair, this isn't even a criticism of Foster, this predates his promotion, this is just how we play and it's showing no sign of changing.


  • It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.
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    In all seriousness, this is brilliant news for NZ Rugby, for a few reasons.

    • Robertson will bring an immense amount of energy and enthusiasm to the role. This has been terribly lacking under 'low energy' Ian Foster.

    • Robertson is a passionate learner of the game. He spends every off-season traveling the world visiting successful teams and learning methods from successful coaches.

    • Robertson teams have historically played above the sum of their parts. Players have played above themselves under his systems. Over the last four years players have consistently struggled for form whilst with the AB's. It's because the systems were not conducive to playing well.

    • I expect Robertson to bring plenty of innovation to the All Blacks. After 4 shitty years of structure-less attack, flat attacking backlines and ridiculous pod systems that simply allowed other teams to dominate numbers at the breakdown, I expect this will be a new and exciting era for the All Blacks.

    • Robertson has shown that he is excellent at developing young talent. And that will be crucial over the next 4 years. With experienced All Blacks departing NZ, we need a coach who can introduce new talent into the team, develop their confidence whilst also harnessing their enthusiasm and energy. When was the last time a young new All Black played with confidence under Foster?

    • I suspect part of what gave Robertson the edge over someone like Jamie Joseph is that he's NZ based. He knows the NZ players better. This will be vital as over the next few years selection is going to be absolutely critical. Identifying and selecting the right players will be crucial.

    • I also think this appointment sends a great message to NZ coaches. It says that you can stay in NZ Rugby and still reach the top. Previously we've had the ridiculous inference that if you want to coach the AB's you've got to leave NZ and coach overseas. And all this has done is exacerbate the brain-drain of talented coaches offshore. Why would we deliberately encourage our best and most aspirational coaches to leave NZ? It's the opposite of what we try and do with our players, by only picking locally based players for the AB's.


  • Springboks v All Blacks 2
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    @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Dalton was the best 7 in NZ in SR, yet his brief moments in black this year, to me show how the environment is affecting people.

    James Parsons made some interesting comments in the podcast this week. He's been there and knows how it works... less vanilla than The Breakdown boys. Talked about how when one part of the game plan isn't functioning... It affects the rest of the game plan. Then the confidence goes.. and it's a spiral effect.. talked about how the Crusaders are so well drilled... everyone knows their job.. and is damn confident doing it! But that takes time... and a good coaching system.


  • Crusaders v Chiefs
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    @Tim said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    21 points at home is a hiding, and the Chiefs have dominated the second half. Can't remember the last time the Crusaders copped it at home like this.

    Clayton has already beaten the Crusaders 3 times in his 3 seasons, Leon has only beaten Crusaders once in his 5 seasons & most of those losses have been blowouts as well. For some reason I've been in the minority but I've always rated McMillan as a better head coach than McDonald. Leon is entering his 5th season and so far has only had moderate success considering the resources that have been invested 3rd party backers etc, only in 2022 with Schmidt as his assistant have Leon's Blues look truly convincing against top opposition. I found it amusing the report Scotland were looking into McDonald, I always thought of McMillan more highly, even as far back when they were coaching in the NPC.


  • Highlanders 2021 coaching staff
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    With the uncertainty around whether this weekend's games go ahead or not, I thought we might as well discuss the future:

    This year Aaron Mauger's contract as Highlanders head coach expires. The Highlanders board will soon decide whether to renew it for 2021 and beyond.

    Mauger's winning percentage sits at just 40% (2018-2020). This is a decrease from 69% from Tony Brown (2017) and 53% from Joseph (2010-2016).

    The Highlanders have won just 2 games in 2020 (including pre-Covid results), even the Chiefs won 4 games pre-Covid including win over Crusaders.

    Personally, I believe Mauger's time as head coach is up. The Highlanders have only gotten worse each year since Brown stood down as head coach in 2017.

    I've canvassed some potential options to replace him as Highlanders head coach, assisting Brown until 2022 and potentially beyond.

    Pat Lam (Bristol Bears)

    Kieran Keane (North Harbour)

    John McKee (off-contract)

    Cory Brown (Japan Top League - Mannix Blues)

    Jono Gibbes (Top 14 - La Rochelle)

    Dave Dillion (Japan Top League - current Kolbe Steelers head coach)

    Tabai Matson (rumored to be shafted by Chiefs in 2021)

    Daryl Gibson (current Fiji attack coach under Vern Cotter)

    Milton Haig (Japan Top League - Suntory Sungoliath head coach)

    Jason O'Halloran (Suntory Sungoliath assistant coach)

    We can pretty much already rule-out both Haig and O'Halloran since they only began their (2 year minimum) contract for Suntory last year.

    One of the best up-and-coming NZ coaches Clayton McMillan is being groomed as Chiefs head coach post-Gatland, so unfortunately he's out of the equation for now.

    Another option is to re-unite Ta$man Mako's title winning coaching duo of 2019, Andrew Goodman and Clarke Dermody.

    Goodman is the current defense coach at the Crusaders, while Dermody has been the Highlanders scrum coach since 2013.

    Another more bolder option is to copy the Blues template, do a Umaga/Rangi of 2019 and demote Mauger to assistant coach, while promoting Dermody to head coach.

    This could actually work very well because Mauger has significantly improved the Highlanders defense since taking over after Delany moved on in 2019. This is the one area Mauger has excelled in 2020. But to be a successful head coach you need good man-management skills also. For the betterment of the Highlanders, I believe Mauger should move to a specialist defense role.

    Mauger's problem is said to be man-management and selection related, sources have indicated there is increasing unrest among the Highlanders players with regards to Mauger's contradictory methods, he is alleged to say one thing one week then change his mind. Players are frustrated to find themselves on the outer after being selected one week then suddenly dropped again the next. There has been little continuity in Highlanders selections until these last 2 rounds of Super Rugby Aotearoa.

    Tony Brown is contracted as Highlanders assistant coach until at least 2022. Word is Dermody will likely be promoted to forwards coach in 2021 as Mark Hammett is leaving the Highlanders after this Saturday's match. Due to Ta$man forwards coach Shane Christie's relationship with Dermody, I think it's possible Christie could be joining the Highlanders next year.

    Most likely out-come for 2021: Aaron Mauger (head+defense), Tony Brown (attack), Clarke Dermody (scrum+forwards coach), Shane Christie (ass. forwards coach).

    What my preference would be: Clarke Dermody (head coach+forwards), Tony Brown (attack), Andrew Goodman (ass.backs, skills, individual player development), Aaron Mauger (defense), Shane Christie (ass. forwards). Re-unite the Ta$man title-winning staff of 2019, let's make it happen!


  • Foster, Robertson etc
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300712464/the-ian-foster-enigma-has-the-indignant-all-blacks-coach-answered-his-critics

    The fact that the improvements listed ('moved the performance needle big-time in the pack'; 'added some much-needed variation in attack'; the others mentioned have all flowed from those two) happened after Ryan and Schmidt were given roles in the ABs' coaching team speaks volumes.

    The front row changes were injury-enforced, as Foster's original picks dropped out and had to be replaced by players who proved to be much better. Barrett at second-five was also injury-enforced, after Foster said he wasn't being looked at in that position.

    In other words, Foster has been shown up as a poor coach and selector reliant on injury, not insight, to force clearly-needed changes, and reliant too on the competent coaches NZR added to the group when those chosen by Foster turned out, like him, to be not up to the job.


  • All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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    Foster now has the worst win % of any All Blacks coach since 1980, including losing to Argentina once and Ireland twice.


  • All Blacks 2022
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    First on the chopping block should be Mooar.

    Razor and Mansbridge let him go because he was a terrible backs coach.

    Hilarious that Foster didn't even bother to do his research on the guy and convinced NZR to waste thousands paying out the rest of his contract at Scarlets!

    Some potentially world-class attack coaches NZR should approach:

    Jason O'Halloran (Suntory)

    Nick Evans (Harlequins)

    Mark Ozich (Western Force)


  • SF: Crusaders (Good) v Blues (Evil)
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    @Dan54 said in SF: Crusaders (Good) v Blues (Evil):

    I can honestly say I can't remember a team getting so soundly at the contact area, Crusaders hit everything hard whether it was tackle or ruck/mauls, and Blues looked gun shy to me.

    Once again perplexing tactics from MacDonald, having two loose forwards out wide when the Crusaders game is breakdown domination...


  • Foster, Robertson, Rennie etc
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    @crucial said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Razor can’t be held responsible for the idiot that stuffs his game up when he is not under Razor.

    Not sure what this has to do with George Bridge....

    Bridge plays ok under Razor so same story.

    But that only holds true if Test rugby isn't step-up from Super Rugby, doesn't it?

    What ?

    Lots of players look good in Super Rugby and struggle up a level in Test rugby.

    What has that do with Foster being coach and Razor not being good enough to be AB coach that’s what the discusion was about.

    Foster has picked Bridge for 2 years so if he isn’t good enough for Test Rugby that confirms Foster should not be AB coach as he can’t identify who is good enough to play test rugby.
    Razor can’t be judged as not being good enough and that’s what the original conversation was about if he hasn’t had a chance .

    You are the one comparing how players go under Razor, at a lower level of rugby. It's not a good comparison.

    No Crucial started that I gave the opposite opinion. As I said to him its not a good comparison reversed either.

    No. You are still getting the wrong end of the stick.
    I was simply saying (if you go back to my OP) that it is a valid question to ask whether lifting Razor up a step automatically means fixing weaknesses when he has already had a chance to fix those weaknesses in some players for many years (or direct his assistants to do so).
    I have not claimed that he is a bad coach. I am questioning why he may not have taken action to improve some of the problems players have already. Maybe he has tried and there is no room for improvement eg RMs decision making under pressure and 'lack' of direction.
    If that is the case then that doesn't point to him being able to fix AB problems because no one can probably fix that player further eg can't turn RM into DC.
    Therefore given the current cattle he can't turn around the team in those key areas.

    There is way too much assumption that he would be the saviour of AB rugby and talk of the stupidity of NZR not to appoint him. We heard all the same stuff about Deans but in the end did history show that we threw away a great coach?

    Razor must be pretty good then considering coach Deans has since won 4 Japanese titles, meanwhile Razor's win-record, consistently, selections, man management & reputation with Crusaders/Canterbury exceeds Robbie's.

    Razor's more consistent 89% long-term success with Crusaders vs Dean's 74% (with McCaw, Carter et.al).

    Dean's 5 titles across 8 seasons vs Razor's 5 titles in 5 seasons without the extensive list of Deans/Blackadder's all time goats like Carter, McCaw, etc.. Robertson has taken on rebuilding jobs at every level, from Sumner, Canterbury & U20's, while Deans managed 1 provincial title in 4 seasons with Canterbury, Razor managed 3 in 4 seasons with mostly a very young group of players as well.

    Todd Blackadder coached the Crusaders for eight long years. Zero titles. He had some of the greatest players that have ever graced a rugby field on his roster (hello DC, Richie et al - waves). Zero titles. 63% win record.

    The first year Razor coached the Crusaders (after the retirement of the aforesaid GOAT's) the Crusaders win super rugby, he's contributed a staggering 89% win record throughout his 5 years at the helm.

    He even coached the Crusaders to a title victory, with the final played in South Africa. The first coach in Super Rugby to manage this feat - not to mention, the first team away on the highveld as well.

    And every following season since Crusaders have won the overall title, dominating SA teams in the process. Even a pandemic hasn't put paid to the winning, in SRA, a tougher more intense competition than the previous.

    Notwithstanding all that winning, the old boys club still saw fit to appoint and then reappoint Foster in 2021, before they even faced a top 5 side in the rankings...


  • All Blacks 2021
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    It's really quite frightening how far we've fallen since Foster's role was expanded after Wayne Smith left in 2017.

    We used to be 1 step ahead of the curb, constantly innovating & evolving our methods to retain our advantage.

    In 2004, Henry came in and said "we need a revolution in how we play, like after the 68 Lions tour". They changed our forward play and everything else.

    We never took a backwards step thanks to being open & bringing in knowledge and expertise from variety of different fields, Mick Bryne AFL, Enoka mental skills, Cron, etc.. we did anything to stay ahead of the chasing pack, the humility to admit that perhaps we should bring in some critical outside expertise for this particular area..

    Hansen & his descendants have been so arrogant/insular about playing their 'brand' of unstructured, one-dimensional, helter skelter rugby, comfy inside in their own echo chambers, and refuse to evolve tactically and make meaningful adjustments to fundamental areas of our game, instead we have been purposefully neglecting them..

    Foster has been involved with this team for a considerably long time now, and the issues that were present years back, still remain there now, and as other teams improve, being exposed even further..

    The cluttered forward play, absence of a coherent plan, lack of discernable structure, is all on the coaching staff.

    I don't see this coaching team as being able to learn, adapt and more importantly, grow.


  • Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021)
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    Why is it that Leon MacDonald doesn't seem to rate Nock?


  • All Blacks 2021
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    • He sticks with some bizarre selections which don't make sense to me. Player loyalty is a good thing but can be carried too far and damage confidence.

    • The attitude of the team under pressure seems all over the place as is the on-field leadership. This isn't all up to him as it includes the senior players, but he needs to lead here. This sort of stuff can't be fixed overnight and there were glimpses of improvement - particularly against Oz - but they faded badly on the NH tour. That’s not good enough.

    • There's too many mistakes, ill-discipline, and lack of consistency on-field. That's down to him - and his Captain(s).

    • He doesn't communicate well in public. Which makes me wonder if he's not communicating well enough with the team overall. He's probably pretty good dealing on a one-to-one basis though (i.e. Akira).

    I'm glad that you have highlighted those 3 issues above.

    Brendon McCullum (a man with relevant previous experience in a critical leadership role) voiced his views on the radio a few months back.

    He reckoned that clearly Foster wants to be mates with his players, and doesn't have the ruthless streak to lay down the law or dump players who don't perform. And doesn't appear to have a coherent plan, or the ability to change things up when something isn't working.

    In other words, not the right man to be Captain of the ship. Second mate is about his level. Foster simply isn't a natural leader.

    A head coach needs to be an inspirational figure, a leader of men.. someone who's a big 'mover and shaker'.

    Foster's personality is far too benign & mundane for a sheriff. If you think about all the great head coaching figures, they are all ruthless and decisive, no fluff involved. Eddie, Rassie, Razor, etc.. Crucially - their individual characters are stimulating, influential and engaging for players to stay driven, clear and motivated.

    These high-profile head coaches have magnetic and charismatic personalities. Foster has all the charisma of dry paint. His interviews put me to sleep to be perfectly honest here... to contrast Henry, Eddie, Rassie, Razor etc.. are all extremely charming and engaging figures to listen to and interact with (for the players, media & fans alike). They each have magnetic personalities, are witty, sharp & intellectually minded. This is a critical point of difference that our current dry as dust, one dimensional head coach in Ian Foster severely lacks.


  • The All Black's current midfield balance.
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    @stargazer said in The All Black's current midfield balance.:

    It's ridiculous to write off the Havili-ALB combo at this stage.

    The problem is ALB & Havili carry too many of the same traits in the midfield.

    While Havili was alright with the crash-ball role, you ideally need someone like a Ma'a/SBW/Ngatai who's game style is structured & developed around that, and actually complements ALB or Havili's style of play..


  • All Blacks 2021
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    This article basically sums up what I've stated previously.

    Razor's hugely innovative systems get the most out of relatively limited players - Foster then takes these same limited players & substitutes them directly into his (much less effective..) systems and people wonder why it doesn't exactly work out seamlessly.


  • Foster, Robertson etc
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    @pakman said in Foster:

    This may not be a popular view, but listening to Foster in last fortnight, he comes across to me as more driven, with a hint of an edge.
    Much more like a head coach should.

    The guy still views RTS as a second-five eight. He also reiterated constantly that he only viewed Jordie Barett as a fullback (and stubbornly persisted with him as an ineffective back three option in 2020) until forced into moving him into midfield due to injuries. Foster has no imagination, no sense of potential and needs everything handed to him on a plate. You see that essentially all of Foster's big "payed-off" selections have been directly the result of his hand being forced (Lomax, Taukei'aho, Barrett, DeGroot, Newell, etc..) not through some brilliant intuition, inspiration or any degree of foresight...


  • All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug
  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    Damien is simply not good enough at test-level; runs sideways; gets rag-dolled and opposition love to see his name on the team-list.

    McKenzie is not an international fullback full-stop, he's too short, too lightweight and looses the ball in the collision far too often. And he constantly gets isolated, as he often runs away from his support players.

    Play him against tier-two opponents and he looks a million dollars, play him against big imposing physical sides and he'll get flattened, time and again.


  • The All Black's current midfield balance.
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    @bobily2 said in The All Black's current midfield balance.:

    I like what Havili has brought to the table at a time when we had few options - however, agreed, he isn't a long-term option. Will be interesting what happens at the Crusaders next year. I imagine he continues at 12, but Goodhue is on the slower side for a 13.

    For me, 12 is a position in which you rarely see someone come out of school and dominate at. Presumably the pace of the defense is a lot faster at the professional level, and 12 is probably one of the positions where you get the least time to make a decision. When you add in that you have to be strong defensively, physically quite large to ensure you're not getting forced backwards on the carry, a decent kicking option in case the 10 is in a ruck and a good playmaking option under pressure - it's a long list of requirements, particularly for players who were likely able to rely on simply being the biggest and fastest at schoolboy level.

    In our early U20 teams we had a lot of guys who perhaps didn't have the size to make it at the top level (TJ Faiane, Tei Walden, Shaun Treeby), but in more recent years we've been selecting a larger midfield (Tele'a, Gregory, T Umaga-Jensen). I guess the question mark for these larger guys is whether they have the skillset needed, and particularly, whether they can perform these skills under pressure. Some of this development can only happen if they're given enough game time - and some of it dependent on the players themselves and how much they're willing to work on it. Too often, I feel, we're relying on stopgap options at 12 who we know will never be good enough, rather than allowing some of more promising options to get better (e.g. Sio Tomkinson ahead of Scott Gregory).

    Aside from Havili and Lienert-Brown, the players I see who have the potential to wear the 12 jersey over the next few years (edit - by few years I mean 2 - 6 years) are:

    1. Quinn Tupaea - the most obvious. He will likely be getting consistent game time, crucially alongside Anton Lienert-Brown. He can break tackles easily. I'd like to see him round out his game a little better - I think he has the skills, so likely just needs to get a little better at performing these under pressure. This takes time.

    2. Scott Gregory - Played well this year for the Highlanders. He's big and can cart the ball up. Again, he needs work on the playmaking side of things. I'd like to see the Highlanders persist with him. Unless TUJ stops getting injured, he will likely get a lot of game time in the future

    3. Thomas Umaga-Jensen - Big question mark is whether he can actually get enough games together to put forward his case for selection, let alone get a bit of experience under his belt.

    4. Peter Umaga-Jensen - It would be good to see more of him at 12, but he looks to have the size and skills. Will likely have the 12 jersey for the Hurricanes going forward (or at least you'd think he would - with the Canes coaches, you never know).

    There are a few other players who I think have/could develop the skillset required to be an AB 12, but I don't think they'll get the time in the jersey that they'd need (e.g. Leicester Fainga'anuku, Jordie Barrett (why would we, at this point?).

    Tony Brown had huge wraps on Thomas Umaga-Jensen, sees him as a future long-term All Black.

    Massive frame, really impressive physical specimen at just 22, & very similar in physique to SBW. Once he fills out he could potentially become the most powerful & destructive line-breaking midfielder in NZ since Nonu, by all accounts he's even better than his brother at the Hurricanes.


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    @crucial said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    DH does not smack in to it. In fact he hesitates right at the point. That's not fucking helpful.

    Could a good coach improve that? 😃

    apparently he had a very good coach early in the year. Why didn't he sort it?

    Coaching at AB level shouldn't be about teaching guys this level of detail.

    Agree on both points.

    Many of the problems with individuals are from players under Razor which raises questions on whether he really is equipped to improve players at an AB level.
    He's a very good person manager and knows how to get a tea functioning well at Super level but when so called star players like Mounga seemingly have no clue what to do when faced with what teams like Ireland will bring it kind of points to him not being the saviour of NZ rugby.
    Another Deans when what we need is another Wayne Smith.

    Genuinely clueless post. Robertson does not have any involvement with the backs specifically. Goodman is the Crusaders 'position specific coach' who works with mainly the outside backs, but also the midfield. Scott Hansen is the current inside backs coach, Mooar in previous years. Scott Hansen works individually with Mo'unga and Havili on the technical areas of their game, Razor is not involved at all.

    Razor has always been a defence & breakdown specialist, that's been his specialized coaching area since ~2008/2009 seasons.

    According to some former players I've talked to Razor is a rugby genius, and with regards to his attention to detail, planning & tactical aspects, Robertson is up there with Wayne Smith and most certainly ahead of Robbie Deans.

    Wyatt Crockett's playing career overlapped with Deans, Henry, Smith, Hansen & Razor, in various coaching roles between 2006-2017.

    According to him, Razor and Wayne Smith were the 2 standout coaches among that prestigious group.

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