The Silver Fern

@canefan said in FFS get a grip:

@Paj said in FFS get a grip:

@pakman

@pakman said in FFS get a grip:

@sparky said in FFS get a grip:

@pakman said in FFS get a grip:

ABs were ahead at HT in 10 of 12 tests this year.

Unfortunately for Scott Robertson and his chums, Rugby Tests aren't decided after 40 minutes.

A loss is a loss is a loss.

The starters are OK. I don’t know what the hell happens in the shed at half time, but that and the substitution tactics are where the problem is.

I disagree, starters are the issue, as is game plan.

Starters-
BB has started at 1st 5 and is labored in his position, seems slow at getting ball to backs, kicking game has been off and looks over coached, over trained.

Will Jordon hasn't shown the form from his previous years. why? possibly confidence, maybe trying to play a structured game plan that doesn't suit him, but he hasn't been on form on this NH tour.

Leroy Carter isn't our best wing, yet has been picked every game had a brain fart for a Yellow, missed a tackle that led to a Try and hasn't scored a Try on tour.

Scott Barrett is out of form, and hasn't lead team well IMO.

Parker is a great defender, but hasn't added to the attack like a Sititi

Game Plan-

We look half assed in attack, the league style of passing behind player only works if the ball is passed in front of player receiving. Time and time we see the ball go loose, or the player has to reach behind them to take ball. This no look pop pass fucken infuriates me as it offers nothing yet is a high percentage lost ball that leads to points,
BB take ball at first five and is laboured in his delivery, it's almost like slow motion, giving defenses time. Seems the "Crash" ball in Centres is plan, but easily read by teams.
Also "fast ball" is what I think they are trying to achieve, but teams slow this down and it's not effective. the penalty tap is an example. We got one try from Cody Taylor flicking up to Sititi? but that about the only positive.
High ball kicks-the only thing to say is the kick is only as good as the chaser.

One thing that fucks me off is the Coaches comments about "Care" We Care for the players, they showed Care blah blah fucken blah. Care doesn't win Test Matches.

Wow things must be bad for one of the OGs to come out and comment

Haha, yep, been brewing for awhile. I was so excited for this tour, and especially Ireland and England. and to get up at 4.45am and watch that pile of shit and then milk cows late in a grumpy mood has me back lurking in the forum.

Interested in thoughts on here if you regarded this as a proper Grand Slam?

All talk out of AB's is they targeted this tour as a goal of winning the Grand Slam, and media did the same. I listen to Scotty & Izzy every morning and most of listeners felt same way.

I don't, I believe to win a Grand Slam you play the nation at home. AB's beat Ireland at Soldiers Field which is no where as intimidating as Aviva Stadium/Lansdown Road would have been. It's why in all comps home ground advantage is better, why you play quarters, semis in NPC to get a home game.

Just interested in others on this, or is winning all four nations a genuine slam?

@pakman

@pakman said in FFS get a grip:

@sparky said in FFS get a grip:

@pakman said in FFS get a grip:

ABs were ahead at HT in 10 of 12 tests this year.

Unfortunately for Scott Robertson and his chums, Rugby Tests aren't decided after 40 minutes.

A loss is a loss is a loss.

The starters are OK. I don’t know what the hell happens in the shed at half time, but that and the substitution tactics are where the problem is.

I disagree, starters are the issue, as is game plan.

Starters-
BB has started at 1st 5 and is labored in his position, seems slow at getting ball to backs, kicking game has been off and looks over coached, over trained.

Will Jordon hasn't shown the form from his previous years. why? possibly confidence, maybe trying to play a structured game plan that doesn't suit him, but he hasn't been on form on this NH tour.

Leroy Carter isn't our best wing, yet has been picked every game had a brain fart for a Yellow, missed a tackle that led to a Try and hasn't scored a Try on tour.

Scott Barrett is out of form, and hasn't lead team well IMO.

Parker is a great defender, but hasn't added to the attack like a Sititi

Game Plan-

We look half assed in attack, the league style of passing behind player only works if the ball is passed in front of player receiving. Time and time we see the ball go loose, or the player has to reach behind them to take ball. This no look pop pass fucken infuriates me as it offers nothing yet is a high percentage lost ball that leads to points,
BB take ball at first five and is laboured in his delivery, it's almost like slow motion, giving defenses time. Seems the "Crash" ball in Centres is plan, but easily read by teams.
Also "fast ball" is what I think they are trying to achieve, but teams slow this down and it's not effective. the penalty tap is an example. We got one try from Cody Taylor flicking up to Sititi? but that about the only positive.
High ball kicks-the only thing to say is the kick is only as good as the chaser.

One thing that fucks me off is the Coaches comments about "Care" We Care for the players, they showed Care blah blah fucken blah. Care doesn't win Test Matches.

@Bones Sumo on Sport Nation this morning saying Eklund, Tuipulotu and Papalili all injured, yet no update on Tribe or socials.

I'm happy to post team
Newell Riccitelli Numia
T. Hooper Tuipulotu
Papal'l Kirifi Savea
Roigard Dmac
Tupaea Rona
Jordon Naholo Nonai Seturo

Good advice re Boosters, was thinking mid to end of season, and against use on players against teams where they will put on alot of points.

Thoughts on when you would use your "Boosters"?

@mariner4life Coma, amnesia, found on a deserted island after a few years ship wreaked.....

Had a break posting for a few years, lurked a fair bit and typed out a few replies and lost confidence in replying....weird ah

I'm keen

28-16 SA

@Stargazer Thanks mate,

I never made it as was to heavy, my brother played in one year.

My son has made Ross Brown, Taranaki's equivalent and it's picked on School Zones, not Clubs. South, Central, West and North. The weight limit up to 3 years ago was 57.5kgs as that was required to go to Roller Mills. Now they no longer enter RM's as too expensive they pushed weight to 60kgs.

Can anyone give a little info on Ross Shield please.

Teams? From what I remember South CHB, West etc who else

Weight restrictions?

Age, Y7 & 8 and are Y6 players eligible?

Do they have a tournament team that goes to Roller Mills?

Cheers

I'm in, tipped on time. Chur

I'm in!

William Guthrie is one to watch, usually a midfielder.

@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

By the way, does your squad only have 30 names? In which case, you might have lost already? Isn’t it 31?

In mine, probably Harris goes, plus add Laulala or even perhaps Lomax? Pat T might stay home (I’d probably pick him), and I’ll be surprised if either of Frizzel or Whitelock don’t go. Ioane will have been played into the ground by then. Frizzel plus Squire covers 6 & 8 pretty well - I’m not sure if the time is right for Paps yet either.

In the backs, HBs are the form guys, you need an extra 10, midfield depends on injury, and only 2 outsides are set.

Jodie may sneak in due to lack of competition but if Ioane got injured we’d be pretty small and not overly fast.

If I had to bet on a real bolter, I’m starting to like Ennor more and more, but I don’t think it’s his time yet and he won’t get a chance against the Argies as he’s a Crusader.

Still have to add 1 more.

@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

You could also consider leaving out a three quarter for another 1st five. On that one, they’ve been less clear.

Still think 3 1st fives is way to go, but can't work out who

@Chris-B said in World Cup Squad Positions:

@Paj said in World Cup Squad Positions:

@mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

1 too many in the midfield, need another prop

Yeah, altho I like that midfield group, would rather drop Bridge and bring in a Prop

Yes - but how are you going to use that fifth midfielder in a big game?

You've got two playing. And one on the bench. One sitting in the stands in case someone gets injured in warm-ups.

And the fastest one running down to the local fish and chip shop with Shag and Fozzie's halftime order.

I know, just posted what I had at this stage, needs a few tweeks. Liked that group, but most likely Laumape will get dropped

@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

@Paj

Is this a bet thing? If so, you’ll have to make a decision, the AB selectors have made it clear they are only taking four midfielders and will need five props.

Yeah, 12 mates catching up for weekend have to bring squad & $20 entry closest to Hansens wins.

@mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

1 too many in the midfield, need another prop

Yeah, altho I like that midfield group, would rather drop Bridge and bring in a Prop

So far have this, still considering 3 x 1st Fives or add another Prop.

Taylor
Coles
Coltman

Moody
Franks
Tu'ungafasi
Tu'inukuafe

Retallick
Whitelock
S.Barrett
Tuipolutu

Cane
Savea
Read
Squire
Papalii

A. Smith
Perenara
Weber

B. Barrett
Mo'unga

Crotty
Goodhue
ALB
SBW
Laumape

Ioane
B. Smith
J. Barrett
Bridge