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@Virgil said in NZ Cricket:
Weird thing is these tests aren't part of the current WTC cycle.
Disappointing (unsurprising however) that KW and a couple others choosing leagues/county cricket over playing for NZ.
Disagree. I'm very pleased KW is missing this tour.
But, I'm incredibly disappointed that his vacant place on this gimme tour is being back-filled by a fully declinef 33 year old.
What an incredibly disappointing test squad, opportunity wasted.
@chucknz said in NZ Cricket:
Shame to see Mitch Hay miss out, thought had looked good in his appearances last season
He hasn't really nailed down t20 batting, yet. Even at domestic level. Looks like Seifert is who they are inking in for that for this T20 cycle.
The decision of Blundell or Hay for the upcoming test squad will be interesting, though.
@Kiwiwomble said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:
@Duluth said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:
@mikedogz said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:
I presume they lack of seating behind one of the goals is so they can have a concert stage go there.
Would be better if there was a stand behind that goal and the field moved back. Then a smaller concourse linking to the existing terraces
I do like the KOP like stand behind the goal…but am I missing something, with that huge concourse people sitting in the first few rows won’t see any/most of the pitch….
That would just be for concerts. (The hill).
If there was going to be enough people attending football matches here that the hill was needed, then why build it at all. There is already Mt Smart and Eden Park.
Google some images of 1980s David Bowie concert at Westrn Springs, and can understand why an architect wouldn't want to seal that off permanently from the rest of the arena. But I would have doubts it would actually get used, much, if ever.
@KiwiPie said in NZ Cricket:
My guesses
- Hadlee 1985 15 wickets
- Ajaz and his 10 for
- Bmac 300
- Can't think of another
Maybe Baz also won it for his fastest test century? That might squeeze into the last 8 years. But his 300 was 11 years ago.
@Machpants said in How to rank this RWC?:
@taniwharugby said in How to rank this RWC?:
@Machpants didn't WR change the hosting model post 2011, that had the same model been in place in 2011 NZR would have made more coin
I don't know. I seem to remember us paying less than France did in 2007
The 2007 and 2011 hosting fees were the same.
But, in 2023 France voluntarily upped that £120 million to £150 million to outbid their rivals (and IIRC that extra £30 million was to buy out the corporate, or travel? parts of the income that WR usually retain?)
@taniwharugby said in How to rank this RWC?:
didn't WR change the hosting model post 2011, that had the same model been in place in 2011 NZR would have made more coin
No. The host fee went up in 2015, and up again in '19 and '23.
The 'step change' was really between 2003 and the RWCs that came after. It is from 2007 onwards that the IRB put in place a hosting fee upfront.
The 'more coin' part probably bubbling away somewhere in the back of TR's memory, would be a comparison to the old model. E.g. NZRU would have made a NZD$78 million dollar profit in 2011 using the 2003 model, rather than the NZD $30 million loss (of which $20mil was covered by govt).
But, then .rolling forward ..... it would beggar belief to apply that same thinking to the profits England, Japan , France could have subsequently made using the same model, at the expense of the central WR/IRB profit,
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Abbas finding out about the highs and lows of cricket at this level.
What a contrast from a few days ago.
Huh? What happened?
@nzzp said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:
@Rapido the expensive seats and corporate are north and south
For this part.
Taking Eden Park 2.0 irenders n good faith .... I'm expecting covered seating at least at one end, if not both.
I don't expect corporate at either end though, they would remain square.
That would be Adelaide Oval equivalent.
Rare, but not unknown or unsuccessful.
I would expect a corporate lounge oriented side-on that, but at a ground that actually hosts test matches again, so increases cricket days at the stadium by about 200 to 300%, to be of more value than the status quo of about 4 days use per summer.
@nzzp said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:
@Rapido the expensive seats and corporate are north and south, and the sun goes east west.
So I can't see a realignment happening
I also think it unlikely.
They are quite (demonstrably) comfortable with shit dimensions.
The East-West orientation and sunsets is a real thing for cricket grounds, I agree. But isually not when the ground is a full stadium with building heights no longer making it an issue. Although it would require modeling.
McLean Park (which has a SW orientation) has that issue, where a gap in the stands at exactly due west, causes problems at sunset at certain parts of the summer.
Eden Park orientation is very slightly WNW.
The retractable seating in the southern stand adds 10m to the boundary length.
So, if they repeated that standard in a new northern stand. You'd add 5m to each straight boundary and reach the ICC minimum of 55m each way. Which would still be shit IMO. (Or 60m each way from centre of the pitch.)
However. At 60m each way from the centre. You now have an option to reorient the pitch along the length of the rugby orientation. Without it being too ridiculous. Basically that is McLean Park sized square boundaries.
The diameter of the current square boundaries at Eden Park are 128m. So, they would already be acceptable as straight boundaries . There is also an extra 5m that can be added now that lower tier of western stand has been demolished and is presumably going to be temporary/retractable going forward.
I actually think my explanation of the 55m boundary is wrong.
To the eye, I think the straight boundaries are only about 50m.
I think 55m (that is being used) is half of the straight diameter. Which from a cricketing pov is the centre of the pitch and a totally useless starting point.
The ICC minimum is 55m, and Eden Park doesn't conform, but has an exemption.
I can't think of any ground in the world that even gets close to the 55m minimum, though. Seddon Park is probably next smallest in the world at about 58/59m straight.
@WestieFella said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:
A quick Google tells me EP is currently the world's smallest cricket ground with a 55 metre straight boundary. Whereas the basin reserve boundary is between 137 and 150 metres.
Those comparisons aren't apples and apples.
A 55m boundary is from the stumps to the boundary. So an edge just needs to go 55m and a straight hit is 75m::
55m plus 20m for the length of the pitch.
The Basin straight is about 65m
Caketin is about 60m in all directions.
These are with the ropes and electronic signage pushing them in a few meters.
