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All Blacks vs Ireland

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  • TimT Tim

    Can't see why you would play de Groot. He has been poor this year. Underwhelming scrumming, and low impact around the field. Tu'ungufasi was good when he came on and put in some hits.

    Proctor's defense was exposed by Japan, the 14th ranked team.

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    @Tim Not sure about that, De Groot gave the Poms a torrid time at scrum time earlier in the year
    Anyway, I can't see them bringing De Groot back in for this match

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

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      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

      Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

      8 is Sititi's preferred position. 8 will give him more opportunities with the ball in hand where he is excelling. The All Blacks coaches have said they see him as "an 8 who can cover 6."

      Ardie Savea is not playing well at 8. (Cane is now too slow at 7.) Perhaps a return to 7 might start getting the best out of the World Player of Year again?

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      • sparkyS sparky

        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

        8 is Sititi's preferred position. 8 will give him more opportunities with the ball in hand where he is excelling. The All Blacks coaches have said they see him as "an 8 who can cover 6."

        Ardie Savea is not playing well at 8. (Cane is now too slow at 7.) Perhaps a return to 7 might start getting the best out of the World Player of Year again?

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        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

        8 is Sititi's preferred position. 8 will give him more opportunities with the ball in hand where he is excelling. The All Blacks coaches have said they see him as "an 8 who can cover 6."

        Ardie Savea is not playing well at 8. (Cane is now too slow at 7.) Perhaps a return to 7 might start getting the best out of the World Player of Year again?

        I agree with all this. Why don't they try people out for half a game. It's becoming annoying to be honest.

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          Apart from off the scrum, I'd love to know what people here believe the difference is between a 6 and a 8, particularly in the way the All Blacks play. It doesn't feel like Sititi is getting any less ball than Savea at the moment?

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

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            @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

            You haven't seen him play at 8?

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              Is there any word on Papalii rejoining the squad? Cane was completely anonymous. Tough ask coming off a hamstring injury to play Ireland.

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              • TimT Tim

                Is there any word on Papalii rejoining the squad? Cane was completely anonymous. Tough ask coming off a hamstring injury to play Ireland.

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                @Tim The safest starting option maybe 6. Finau 7. Savea 8. Sititi

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                  Papali'i and Blackadder are both at least another week away.

                  And Proctor is out of the tour...

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                    Papali'i and Blackadder are both at least another week away.

                    And Proctor is out of the tour...

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                    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                    Proctor is out of the tour...

                    Training injury?

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Is there any word on Papalii rejoining the squad? Cane was completely anonymous. Tough ask coming off a hamstring injury to play Ireland.

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      Is there any word on Papalii rejoining the squad? Cane was completely anonymous. Tough ask coming off a hamstring injury to play Ireland.

                      I'd heard that Blackadder and Papalii were going to be ready by France at the earliest.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        Proctor is out of the tour...

                        Training injury?

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                        @Tim FB_IMG_1730653830673.jpg

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                          Will Brodie McAlister get in ahead of Bell on the bench? Not a fan of either yet, but maybe McAlister is a bit more 'seasoned' for a test of this size if you were to choose between the 2?

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                            All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

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                              All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

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                              @MiketheSnow by returning for the birth of his child? Jeez Mike. You’re a hard marker!

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                                @Tim FB_IMG_1730653830673.jpg

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                                @taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.

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                                  Will Brodie McAlister get in ahead of Bell on the bench? Not a fan of either yet, but maybe McAlister is a bit more 'seasoned' for a test of this size if you were to choose between the 2?

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                                  @African-Monkey yeah, he is not nearly as shit as Bell

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                    All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

                                    Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      @taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.

                                      Unless it's only his own best wishes - maybe the other All Blacks think like @MiketheSnow.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                        Is there any word on Papalii rejoining the squad? Cane was completely anonymous. Tough ask coming off a hamstring injury to play Ireland.

                                        I'd heard that Blackadder and Papalii were going to be ready by France at the earliest.

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                                        @sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend

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                                          @sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend

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                                          @Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                          @sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend

                                          I suppose it's only a problem if there are further injuries. In all likelihood, the same starting trio will be used for the next two games so it just means Papali'i and Blackadder might both start against Italy.

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