All Blacks vs Ireland
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All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
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All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
@MiketheSnow by returning for the birth of his child? Jeez Mike. You’re a hard marker!
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@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
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Will Brodie McAlister get in ahead of Bell on the bench? Not a fan of either yet, but maybe McAlister is a bit more 'seasoned' for a test of this size if you were to choose between the 2?
@African-Monkey yeah, he is not nearly as shit as Bell
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All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.
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@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
Unless it's only his own best wishes - maybe the other All Blacks think like @MiketheSnow.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Is there any word on Papalii rejoining the squad? Cane was completely anonymous. Tough ask coming off a hamstring injury to play Ireland.
I'd heard that Blackadder and Papalii were going to be ready by France at the earliest.
@sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend
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@sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend
I suppose it's only a problem if there are further injuries. In all likelihood, the same starting trio will be used for the next two games so it just means Papali'i and Blackadder might both start against Italy.
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@sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend
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I think if we see either Papalii or Blackadder against France it will be off the bench. Being involved in the Italy game is much more likely.
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I trust the All Blacks training to get experienced players like those two up to speed and match sharpness. The issue will be how much of the full training programme are they involved with?
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@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
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@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
Upvote for a new apostrophe nazi. That's my job!
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
Ok, not the poor part. That's your usual hyperbole. But they definitely pick some better players on the bench. Marx and Mbonambi for example.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
Ok, not the poor part. That's your usual hyperbole. But they definitely pick some better players on the bench. Marx and Mbonambi for example.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
Ok, not the poor part. That's your usual hyperbole. But they definitely pick some better players on the bench. Marx and Mbonambi for example.
They bring the subs on quite a bit earlier though eh.
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@sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@sparky Problem is neither Papalii or Blackadder will be match fit of they rejoin the squad, and if they play will be well off the pace for test rugby . At this stage it would be far easier for Kirifi and Lakai to join the team after the all blacks XV game over in Montpellier this weekend
Not for Ethan, he's never been match fit in his life as he can't string two games together. Plus he'd probably be injured during the game again, so wouldn't need to go 80 minutes.
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@Crazy-Horse yeah I'd pick Roigard as quicker, although that may have changed post injury.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Crazy-Horse yeah I'd pick Roigard as quicker, although that may have changed post injury.
I do wonder if they are managing Roigard carefully for that reason
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
Ok, not the poor part. That's your usual hyperbole. But they definitely pick some better players on the bench. Marx and Mbonambi for example.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
Ok, not the poor part. That's your usual hyperbole. But they definitely pick some better players on the bench. Marx and Mbonambi for example.
So.... pretty much irrelevant
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.
I’d say that bore fruit in second half.
