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All Blacks vs Ireland

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    Machpants
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    #81

    Luckily Plummer has had some good time in ten, to get into the grove, so can be a good option for the next test or two...

    ...oh hang on

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

      All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

      Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.

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      @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

      All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

      Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.

      Why didn't he just make himself unavailable for tour like soon-to-be dad Hunter Paisami already has?

      Why should NZ Rugby be paying to jet people back and forth between hemispheres because they want to have a slice of each cake rather than committing to one (prioritize family life or highly-paid All Black commitments).

      Proctor should've given up his spot for someone else who would've killed for the opportunity to represent their country instead of attempting to have a bob each way.

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      • D darylmitchell

        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

        Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.

        Why didn't he just make himself unavailable for tour like soon-to-be dad Hunter Paisami already has?

        Why should NZ Rugby be paying to jet people back and forth between hemispheres because they want to have a slice of each cake rather than committing to one (prioritize family life or highly-paid All Black commitments).

        Proctor should've given up his spot for someone else who would've killed for the opportunity to represent their country instead of attempting to have a bob each way.

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        taniwharugby
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        @darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.

        This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.

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          KiwiMurph
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          #84

          No midfield cover for Proctor must mean Jordie came through ok and ALB has avoided any suspension

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

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            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours

            Im in with Mike here.

            I remember watching a documentary about the NFL, think it was hard knocks, where they called the whole roster in and basically said "the next 6 weeks would be a good time to make some babies if thats what you were planning on doing" in order to have the pregnancies fall in the off season.

            I also love this one from Roy Keane :

            Richie McCaw didn't even give a woman the time of day during his career.

            GOAT gonna GOAT.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              @taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.

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              nostrildamus
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              @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.

              Or he only had the best wishes of one All Black...

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              • boobooB booboo

                @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.

                Upvote for a new apostrophe nazi. That's my job!

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                @booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.

                Upvote for a new apostrophe nazi. That's my job!

                Oh oh, more Storm Bloopers.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.

                  This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                  @darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.

                  This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.

                  Maybe he should've thought responsibility about the decision & consider all it entails?

                  I mean it's 2024 and humans are starting down the barrel of their own extinction event due to fossil fuels and it's widely known that having kids increases your carbon footprint by magnitudes, right?

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                    @Tim FB_IMG_1730653830673.jpg

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                    @Tim FB_IMG_1730653830673.jpg

                    So Rieko does or doesn't have an injured hand?
                    Maybe Lam has a chance?

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                      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      @kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
                      Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
                      Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?

                      I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.

                      Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too

                      I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.

                      I’d say that bore fruit in second half.

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      @kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
                      Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
                      Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?

                      I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.

                      Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too

                      I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.

                      I’d say that bore fruit in second half.

                      It's how I always saw his plan for it. It looks like madness for a lot of the time, but it does put the opposition defence in two minds and the results of it come later in games (not all the time).

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                      • A African Monkey

                        @pakman said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
                        Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
                        Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?

                        I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.

                        Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too

                        I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.

                        I’d say that bore fruit in second half.

                        It's how I always saw his plan for it. It looks like madness for a lot of the time, but it does put the opposition defence in two minds and the results of it come later in games (not all the time).

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                        Crazy Horse
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                        #91

                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
                        Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
                        Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?

                        I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.

                        Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too

                        I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.

                        I’d say that bore fruit in second half.

                        It's how I always saw his plan for it. It looks like madness for a lot of the time, but it does put the opposition defence in two minds and the results of it come later in games (not all the time).

                        Yeah and at least one of those kicks didn't lead to a try to the opposition. Who said the ABs aren't improving?

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                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                          @darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.

                          This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.

                          Maybe he should've thought responsibility about the decision & consider all it entails?

                          I mean it's 2024 and humans are starting down the barrel of their own extinction event due to fossil fuels and it's widely known that having kids increases your carbon footprint by magnitudes, right?

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @darylmitchell well moving back to rugby, I expect he knows the risk he runs to his fledgling AB career by missing these opportunities.

                          I mean, who knows, but maybe it had taken them a long time to get pregnant, so 'planning' it outside the AB/Super rugby season didnt work?

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                            Machpants
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                            So I expect
                            1 De Groot
                            2 Aumua
                            3 Lomax
                            4 Barrett
                            5 Vaii
                            6 Sititi
                            7 Cane
                            8 Savea
                            9 Roigard
                            10 DMac
                            11 Clarke
                            12. Barrett
                            13. Ioane
                            14 Telea
                            15 Jordan

                            16 Bell
                            17 Williams
                            18 Tosi
                            19 Tuipolutu
                            20 Finau
                            21 Ratima
                            22 Perofeta
                            23 ALB

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              No midfield cover for Proctor must mean Jordie came through ok and ALB has avoided any suspension

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              No midfield cover for Proctor must mean Jordie came through ok and ALB has avoided any suspension

                              Or this is the moment we finally see Savea covering midfield.

                              Make it happen Razor.

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                                So I expect
                                1 De Groot
                                2 Aumua
                                3 Lomax
                                4 Barrett
                                5 Vaii
                                6 Sititi
                                7 Cane
                                8 Savea
                                9 Roigard
                                10 DMac
                                11 Clarke
                                12. Barrett
                                13. Ioane
                                14 Telea
                                15 Jordan

                                16 Bell
                                17 Williams
                                18 Tosi
                                19 Tuipolutu
                                20 Finau
                                21 Ratima
                                22 Perofeta
                                23 ALB

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                9 Roigard
                                21 Roigard

                                He’s good but not that good.

                                I’d start Roigard with Ratima on the bench.

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                                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                  Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

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                                  No Quarter
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                                  @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

                                  We are lacking a big body at 6. After they shafted Ioane we really need Finau to come good there. A loose trio with Finau at 6 and Sititi at 8 has a much better balance. Then 7 should be between Cane, Dalton, Jacobsen and Blackadder. But of course that's the problem with the squad selection, we have too many 7s and not enough 6s.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                    Who do people keep wanting to move Sititi to 8? He’s been absolutely brilliant at 6. Just leave him there.

                                    We are lacking a big body at 6. After they shafted Ioane we really need Finau to come good there. A loose trio with Finau at 6 and Sititi at 8 has a much better balance. Then 7 should be between Cane, Dalton, Jacobsen and Blackadder. But of course that's the problem with the squad selection, we have too many 7s and not enough 6s.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                    Then 7 should be between Cane, Dalton, Jacobsen and Blackadder.

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                                    • FrankF Frank

                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      Then 7 should be between Cane, Dalton, Jacobsen and Blackadder.

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                                      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      Then 7 should be between Cane, Dalton, Jacobsen and Blackadder.

                                      • Lakai

                                      Watch out for Mathis in 2026.
                                      Apprentice or squaddie next year I reckon.

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                                        mariner4life
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                                        the constant use of the descriptor "grudge match" for this game is doing my head in.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          the constant use of the descriptor "grudge match" for this game is doing my head in.

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                          the constant use of the descriptor "grudge match" for this game is doing my head in.

                                          More like a grudge match for them than us.

                                          Johnny the tosser will be hyped watching it.

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