All Blacks vs Ireland
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@Crazy-Horse yeah I'd pick Roigard as quicker, although that may have changed post injury.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Crazy-Horse yeah I'd pick Roigard as quicker, although that may have changed post injury.
I do wonder if they are managing Roigard carefully for that reason
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
Ok, not the poor part. That's your usual hyperbole. But they definitely pick some better players on the bench. Marx and Mbonambi for example.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
South Africa would never do that ... hang on ...
You reckon they're selecting poor players to start?
Ok, not the poor part. That's your usual hyperbole. But they definitely pick some better players on the bench. Marx and Mbonambi for example.
So.... pretty much irrelevant
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.
I’d say that bore fruit in second half.
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Nic Berry (Australia)
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Nic Berry (Australia)
My least favorite ref..... as long as he misses things consistently ..... but the Irish crying in his ears every two seconds will likely have an impact imo
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Hopefully this will be Razor finding out someone is better though injury again.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.
Why didn't he just make himself unavailable for tour like soon-to-be dad Hunter Paisami already has?
Why should NZ Rugby be paying to jet people back and forth between hemispheres because they want to have a slice of each cake rather than committing to one (prioritize family life or highly-paid All Black commitments).
Proctor should've given up his spot for someone else who would've killed for the opportunity to represent their country instead of attempting to have a bob each way.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
Hard disagree, Mike. Whānau comes first. All the best to Billy Proctor and his family for the days ahead.
Why didn't he just make himself unavailable for tour like soon-to-be dad Hunter Paisami already has?
Why should NZ Rugby be paying to jet people back and forth between hemispheres because they want to have a slice of each cake rather than committing to one (prioritize family life or highly-paid All Black commitments).
Proctor should've given up his spot for someone else who would've killed for the opportunity to represent their country instead of attempting to have a bob each way.
@darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.
This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.
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All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
All the best to Proctor but can’t help but feel he’s not done himself any favours
Im in with Mike here.
I remember watching a documentary about the NFL, think it was hard knocks, where they called the whole roster in and basically said "the next 6 weeks would be a good time to make some babies if thats what you were planning on doing" in order to have the pregnancies fall in the off season.
I also love this one from Roy Keane :
Richie McCaw didn't even give a woman the time of day during his career.
GOAT gonna GOAT.
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@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
Or he only had the best wishes of one All Black...
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
Upvote for a new apostrophe nazi. That's my job!
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@taniwharugby An apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last sentence of that press release. Standards are slipping.
Upvote for a new apostrophe nazi. That's my job!
Oh oh, more Storm Bloopers.
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@darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.
This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.
This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.
Maybe he should've thought responsibility about the decision & consider all it entails?
I mean it's 2024 and humans are starting down the barrel of their own extinction event due to fossil fuels and it's widely known that having kids increases your carbon footprint by magnitudes, right?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
So Rieko does or doesn't have an injured hand?
Maybe Lam has a chance? -
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.
I’d say that bore fruit in second half.
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.
I’d say that bore fruit in second half.
It's how I always saw his plan for it. It looks like madness for a lot of the time, but it does put the opposition defence in two minds and the results of it come later in games (not all the time).
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.
I’d say that bore fruit in second half.
It's how I always saw his plan for it. It looks like madness for a lot of the time, but it does put the opposition defence in two minds and the results of it come later in games (not all the time).
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
I found BB kicking annoying, but, as Beaver pointed out on Breakdown, that was a deliberate plan to destabilise English rush.
I’d say that bore fruit in second half.
It's how I always saw his plan for it. It looks like madness for a lot of the time, but it does put the opposition defence in two minds and the results of it come later in games (not all the time).
Yeah and at least one of those kicks didn't lead to a try to the opposition. Who said the ABs aren't improving?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell one would assume he had that very conversation with the the ABs management and it was mutually decided that they'd take him along knowing he could need to head back at short notice.
This is what you'd expect/hope from any decent employer.
Maybe he should've thought responsibility about the decision & consider all it entails?
I mean it's 2024 and humans are starting down the barrel of their own extinction event due to fossil fuels and it's widely known that having kids increases your carbon footprint by magnitudes, right?
@darylmitchell well moving back to rugby, I expect he knows the risk he runs to his fledgling AB career by missing these opportunities.
I mean, who knows, but maybe it had taken them a long time to get pregnant, so 'planning' it outside the AB/Super rugby season didnt work?
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So I expect
1 De Groot
2 Aumua
3 Lomax
4 Barrett
5 Vaii
6 Sititi
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 Roigard
10 DMac
11 Clarke
12. Barrett
13. Ioane
14 Telea
15 Jordan16 Bell
17 Williams
18 Tosi
19 Tuipolutu
20 Finau
21 Ratima
22 Perofeta
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No midfield cover for Proctor must mean Jordie came through ok and ALB has avoided any suspension
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
No midfield cover for Proctor must mean Jordie came through ok and ALB has avoided any suspension
Or this is the moment we finally see Savea covering midfield.
Make it happen Razor.
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So I expect
1 De Groot
2 Aumua
3 Lomax
4 Barrett
5 Vaii
6 Sititi
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 Roigard
10 DMac
11 Clarke
12. Barrett
13. Ioane
14 Telea
15 Jordan16 Bell
17 Williams
18 Tosi
19 Tuipolutu
20 Finau
21 Ratima
22 Perofeta
23 ALB@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
9 Roigard
21 RoigardHe’s good but not that good.
I’d start Roigard with Ratima on the bench.
