All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham
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One of the convos that would have been interesting was some Pom whinging at Gus who said something like "nah, that was a real ding dong contest, I'm not penalising that" or similar. But for the life of me I couldn't hear what the query was., or the subsequent reply. Was later in 2nd half.
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i realised the commentators are a big part of the reason why i sometimes hate watching sport. Shut the fuck up!
it is not radio fuckheads, i can see what is happening.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
i realised the commentators are a big part of the reason why i sometimes hate watching sport. Shut the fuck up!
I miss Sky's option of the ref's mic feed only. The banter between the players is also great to listen to. They also need to include the ARs audio. A strong ref will often ignore a lot of what the ARs are saying to them if it is trivial.
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The other thing that was good about the audio was the sound mix for the crowd was really good
You could really hear the crowd and it makes you feel like you are there
In some games the crowd is so muted - it takes away from the experience.
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The other thing that was good about the audio was the sound mix for the crowd was really good
You could really hear the crowd and it makes you feel like you are there
In some games the crowd is so muted - it takes away from the experience.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
In some games the crowd is so muted - it takes away from the experience
that's just NZ crowds...
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The other thing that was good about the audio was the sound mix for the crowd was really good
You could really hear the crowd and it makes you feel like you are there
In some games the crowd is so muted - it takes away from the experience.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
The other thing that was good about the audio was the sound mix for the crowd was really good
You could really hear the crowd and it makes you feel like you are there
In some games the crowd is so muted - it takes away from the experience.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
In some games the crowd is so muted - it takes away from the experience
that's just NZ crowds...
i was wondering if it was just NZ crowds or if that crowd noise was "canned", really adds to the experience i think
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
In some games the crowd is so muted - it takes away from the experience
that's just NZ crowds...
@mariner4life well when NZ crowds attempt to make noise they get drowned out by the local "DJ"
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@kpkanz Absolute bullshit. He was lethal for the ABs last year. What has changed is the coach, and the shithouse attack system. We have gone backwards.
@Tim said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@kpkanz Absolute bullshit. He was lethal for the ABs last year. What has changed is the coach, and the shithouse attack system. We have gone backwards.
Man where was he LETHAL last year?? Genuinely.
Last 2 years he is consistently bottom of the backline for metres made, linebreaks, defenders beaten.
CONSISTENTLY.
If you're going to argue he was LETHAL you can't just link a last pass for a try as evidence of that.
Where was he lethal that he was carving up defences last year. I don't ever remember that happening.
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@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Just saw the ABs IV game. How good is that jersey??? Much better than the ABs.
I'd be asking where the other XI were.
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Just saw the ABs IV game. How good is that jersey??? Much better than the ABs.
I'd be asking where the other XI were.
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The problem with this whole "Reiko never puts anyone in to space" argument is that he is also never given the ball with any sort of time.
He was given it today once I can remember and he immediately gave it to Sititi, backed up and hit the ruck (we lost the ball because the rest of.pur loose forwards were again MIA).
If he was hungasing the ball and constantly blowing overlaps this argument would hold a lot more water. But he gets shit ball too because our pattern is both midfielders playing narrow flat and straight
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
The problem with this whole "Reiko never puts anyone in to space" argument is that he is also never given the ball with any sort of time.
He was given it today once I can remember and he immediately gave it to Sititi, backed up and hit the ruck (we lost the ball because the rest of.pur loose forwards were again MIA).
If he was hungasing the ball and constantly blowing overlaps this argument would hold a lot more water. But he gets shit ball too because our pattern is both midfielders playing narrow flat and straight
I have noticed since SA 1 that they have been using both Jordie and Rieko very narrow to try to suck in defenders. It is quite effective at doing that, but it's not a great use of Rieko's talents. Ideally we'd want him a bit wider looking for mismatches. If only we had someone like Nonu inside him...
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How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.Maybe a few people agree with each other?
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@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.Maybe a few people agree with each other?
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.Maybe a few people agree with each other?
A lot of new profiles seem to pop up to agree.
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@booboo said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.Maybe a few people agree with each other?
A lot of new profiles seem to pop up to agree.
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.Maybe a few people agree with each other?
A lot of new profiles seem to pop up to agree.
I think I pointed that out a few weeks back with all the new Cantab accounts
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@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.Maybe a few people agree with each other?
A lot of new profiles seem to pop up to agree.
I think I pointed that out a few weeks back with all the new Cantab accounts
.@Nepia said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
How many accounts to some users have on here, it seems some have multiple why I do not understand.
To back up their own posts maybe upvoting their own stuff.Maybe a few people agree with each other?
A lot of new profiles seem to pop up to agree.
I think I pointed that out a few weeks back with all the new Cantab accounts
.Haha more like chiefs accounts
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lol what? there are like 8 chiefs fans on this entire sub (well, 9 if you count bandwagon jumping Nepia).
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lol what? there are like 8 chiefs fans on this entire sub (well, 9 if you count bandwagon jumping Nepia).
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
lol what? there are like 8 chiefs fans on this entire sub (well, 9 if you count bandwagon jumping Nepia).
Joke reply back mate settle.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
Our lineout is crap, leadership is crap, composure is crap, discipline is crap, inside backs crap
Still cant wait for the next game. Bring it on.Definitely a work in progress. I am hoping for a signature win to turn the corner and get an era going.
That's one of two important questions.
(1) When's it going to click, Razor; and
(2) Even when it does, how replicable is it going to be?So we're playing this up-tempo, frenetic style that when we string a few miracle passes together and have the right guys on the end of them, other teams aren't going to live with it.
We're going to score some sexy tries and when we score them in multiples, we likely going to blow someone off the park.
I'm hoping it's going to click next weekend, because I've got a feeling it will need to.
But, this week's error-ridden performance doesn't fill me with confidence. Just about everyone made an error. Most of them made two or three. Some of them made half a dozen. That's got to add up to 50+ errors. A hell of a lot of work-ons to improve this week.
But, I wonder whether this gameplan is confusing ambition with ability. If you've only half a dozen guys who are actually skilled enough to cope with the gameplan, pretty quickly the ball is going to find a guy who's going to throw or drop a shit pass.
And to me, that looks a bit like what's happening at the moment.
Even when we do have a game where the passes stick and we all go "Wow", are we going to be able to back it up next week, and the next? Seems like quite a bit of improvement in ball skills required for just about everyone.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Even when we do have a game where the passes stick and we all go "Wow", are we going to be able to back it up next week, and the next? Seems like quite a bit of improvement in ball skills required for just about everyone.
It’s possible but it will take time. Something that is difficult to bide in pro sports.
Post 2007 RWC and into that 2011-15 phase we played an up tempo style that put ball playing demands on some of our forwards that hadn’t been there. We had tight forwards standing at 1st receiver after rucks that were making delayed passes to a second wave. Hell even Owen Franks was doing it and I recall when he started as an AB he had average catching and passing skills.
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Try, and penalty against Maro, lucky it didn't connect with telea's head
A player must not attempt to kick the ball from the hands of the ball-carrier.
https://cdn4.theroar.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Mark-Telea.jpg@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Try, and penalty against Maro, lucky it didn't connect with telea's head
A player must not attempt to kick the ball from the hands of the ball-carrier.
https://cdn4.theroar.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Mark-Telea.jpgThat's a penalty try if he collects him there.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Even when we do have a game where the passes stick and we all go "Wow", are we going to be able to back it up next week, and the next? Seems like quite a bit of improvement in ball skills required for just about everyone.
It’s possible but it will take time. Something that is difficult to bide in pro sports.
Post 2007 RWC and into that 2011-15 phase we played an up tempo style that put ball playing demands on some of our forwards that hadn’t been there. We had tight forwards standing at 1st receiver after rucks that were making delayed passes to a second wave. Hell even Owen Franks was doing it and I recall when he started as an AB he had average catching and passing skills.
@ACT-Crusader Yes - that's true. And the rest of the world was bemoaning how we'd stolen a march and they couldn't compete with our ball playing props - but, then we came back to the pack and maybe fell behind.
So maybe I should applaud the ambition and trust we'll get there.
In the meantime, I guess we just need enough passes to stick to continue to win by a point or two.
But, it looks like taking some time to be pretty!
