All Blacks v France
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@family-man said in All Blacks v France:
Is Cody Taylor actually available this week?
We don't know, BB and Codie are on HIA stand down, but we don;t know if they are fit yet. Both might not be available.
@Machpants said in All Blacks v France:
@family-man said in All Blacks v France:
Is Cody Taylor actually available this week?
We don't know, BB and Codie are on HIA stand down, but we don;t know if they are fit yet. Both might not be available.
Even if they pass, I'd put them on the bench. Why rush them back when both their replacements grew into the starting roles, and could do with another run?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:
I'm expecting the All Blacks to roll out the same team for a third week in a row, except with Beauden Barrett and Codie Taylor returning to the 23 on the bench.
Roigard deserves a start but suspect Razor will be pretty happy with the one-two punch at the moment.
I feel like the one-two punch would be better the other way around though.
It's worth a try but Ratima has generally been quite good starting - he's not suddenly a bad starting halfback just because of a couple of indifferent games. There's something about bringing in Roigard's booming left boot later in the game that I think really helps.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:
I'm expecting the All Blacks to roll out the same team for a third week in a row, except with Beauden Barrett and Codie Taylor returning to the 23 on the bench.
Roigard deserves a start but suspect Razor will be pretty happy with the one-two punch at the moment.
I feel like the one-two punch would be better the other way around though.
It's worth a try but Ratima has generally been quite good starting - he's not suddenly a bad starting halfback just because of a couple of indifferent games. There's something about bringing in Roigard's booming left boot later in the game that I think really helps.
It's a tough one because you really need to try and predict how the game is going to go from about 50 mins onward:
Is it going to open up and quicken in pace? In that case, maybe Ratima's slightly snappier delivery and combo with DMac is going to work better.
Or is it going to slow down a little, get tense and become a territorial chess match where you're trying to hold onto a lead or kick your way into point scoring positions? In that case, maybe Cam is the guy. -
I'd go with:
1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan
16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor
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I'd go with:
1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan
16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
I'd go with:
1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan
16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor
Billy Proctor has gone home.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
I'd go with:
1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan
16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor
Billy Proctor has gone home.
@African-Monkey Is he gone for good or joining the squad in France?
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@African-Monkey Is he gone for good or joining the squad in France?
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@African-Monkey Is he gone for good or joining the squad in France?
I thought he went for good.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@African-Monkey Is he gone for good or joining the squad in France?
I thought he went for good.
Okay, it won't happen (ALB will be the 23), but I'd be tempted then to get Quinn Tupaea on the AB bench after his superb performance against Munster.
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Okay, it won't happen (ALB will be the 23), but I'd be tempted then to get Quinn Tupaea on the AB bench after his superb performance against Munster.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Okay, it won't happen (ALB will be the 23), but I'd be tempted then to get Quinn Tupaea on the AB bench after his superb performance against Munster.
Why on earth do that when AJ Lam is already on the sideline?
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I'd go with:
1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan
16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
I'd go with:
1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan
16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor
TJP? Oh how the worm has turned
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If there’s no injuries I can see the same XV starting with Taylor and BB on the pine
Be like the old days
You have to work your way back into the starting XV when a team is winning
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v France:
If there’s no injuries I can see the same XV starting with Taylor and BB on the pine
Be like the old days
You have to work your way back into the starting XV when a team is winning
Yeah start with Ratima and Roigard comes on early in 2nd half
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
I'd go with:
1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan
16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor
TJP? Oh how the worm has turned
@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Okay, it won't happen (ALB will be the 23), but I'd be tempted then to get Quinn Tupaea on the AB bench after his superb performance against Munster.
Why on earth do that when AJ Lam is already on the sideline?
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@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
Hotham, really? That's a pretty wild take - what have you seen from him this year that suggest that?
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@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Ratima seems a bit low on confidence.
Huh? How do you figure that? When he was actually allowed to get the ball, his passing was crisp and pinpoint, it was really impressive. He just helped us to beat the number 1 team at home.
Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
Drugs are bad, kids.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:
I'm expecting the All Blacks to roll out the same team for a third week in a row, except with Beauden Barrett and Codie Taylor returning to the 23 on the bench.
Roigard deserves a start but suspect Razor will be pretty happy with the one-two punch at the moment.
I feel like the one-two punch would be better the other way around though.
It's worth a try but Ratima has generally been quite good starting - he's not suddenly a bad starting halfback just because of a couple of indifferent games. There's something about bringing in Roigard's booming left boot later in the game that I think really helps.
It's a tough one because you really need to try and predict how the game is going to go from about 50 mins onward:
Is it going to open up and quicken in pace? In that case, maybe Ratima's slightly snappier delivery and combo with DMac is going to work better.
Or is it going to slow down a little, get tense and become a territorial chess match where you're trying to hold onto a lead or kick your way into point scoring positions? In that case, maybe Cam is the guy.@junior said in All Blacks v France:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:
I'm expecting the All Blacks to roll out the same team for a third week in a row, except with Beauden Barrett and Codie Taylor returning to the 23 on the bench.
Roigard deserves a start but suspect Razor will be pretty happy with the one-two punch at the moment.
I feel like the one-two punch would be better the other way around though.
It's worth a try but Ratima has generally been quite good starting - he's not suddenly a bad starting halfback just because of a couple of indifferent games. There's something about bringing in Roigard's booming left boot later in the game that I think really helps.
It's a tough one because you really need to try and predict how the game is going to go from about 50 mins onward:
Is it going to open up and quicken in pace? In that case, maybe Ratima's slightly snappier delivery and combo with DMac is going to work better.
Or is it going to slow down a little, get tense and become a territorial chess match where you're trying to hold onto a lead or kick your way into point scoring positions? In that case, maybe Cam is the guy.TBH, I'm just pleased we're having a conversation on which of two 9's should start rather than which one we think is going to fuck up less.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
Hotham, really? That's a pretty wild take - what have you seen from him this year that suggest that?
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@Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.
I think his running game is great but his passing is pretty slow and inaccurate - not any better than Perenara or Christie.
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@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass
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@Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass
@junior said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.
Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass
Yeah what?!
He's the last guy I'd want out there in a big test right now. I'd have Christie before him.
