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All Blacks v France

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @African-Monkey

    Okay, it won't happen (ALB will be the 23), but I'd be tempted then to get Quinn Tupaea on the AB bench after his superb performance against Munster.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

    @African-Monkey

    Okay, it won't happen (ALB will be the 23), but I'd be tempted then to get Quinn Tupaea on the AB bench after his superb performance against Munster.

    Why on earth do that when AJ Lam is already on the sideline?

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      I'd go with:

      1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan

      16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor

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      @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

      I'd go with:

      1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan

      16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor

      TJP? Oh how the worm has turned

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        If there’s no injuries I can see the same XV starting with Taylor and BB on the pine

        Be like the old days

        You have to work your way back into the starting XV when a team is winning

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        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v France:

        If there’s no injuries I can see the same XV starting with Taylor and BB on the pine

        Be like the old days

        You have to work your way back into the starting XV when a team is winning

        Yeah start with Ratima and Roigard comes on early in 2nd half

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          @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

          I'd go with:

          1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan

          16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor

          TJP? Oh how the worm has turned

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          @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

            @African-Monkey

            Okay, it won't happen (ALB will be the 23), but I'd be tempted then to get Quinn Tupaea on the AB bench after his superb performance against Munster.

            Why on earth do that when AJ Lam is already on the sideline?

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            @ARHS Tupaea's a bit better.

            But yeah Proctor, Tupaea and AJ Lam all deserve a shot in the midfield ahead of 2027.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

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              @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

              @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

              Hotham, really? That's a pretty wild take - what have you seen from him this year that suggest that?

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

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                @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                Ratima seems a bit low on confidence.

                Huh? How do you figure that? When he was actually allowed to get the ball, his passing was crisp and pinpoint, it was really impressive. He just helped us to beat the number 1 team at home.

                Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                Drugs are bad, kids.

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                • J junior

                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:

                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:

                  I'm expecting the All Blacks to roll out the same team for a third week in a row, except with Beauden Barrett and Codie Taylor returning to the 23 on the bench.

                  Roigard deserves a start but suspect Razor will be pretty happy with the one-two punch at the moment.

                  I feel like the one-two punch would be better the other way around though.

                  It's worth a try but Ratima has generally been quite good starting - he's not suddenly a bad starting halfback just because of a couple of indifferent games. There's something about bringing in Roigard's booming left boot later in the game that I think really helps.

                  It's a tough one because you really need to try and predict how the game is going to go from about 50 mins onward:
                  Is it going to open up and quicken in pace? In that case, maybe Ratima's slightly snappier delivery and combo with DMac is going to work better.
                  Or is it going to slow down a little, get tense and become a territorial chess match where you're trying to hold onto a lead or kick your way into point scoring positions? In that case, maybe Cam is the guy.

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                  @junior said in All Blacks v France:

                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:

                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France:

                  I'm expecting the All Blacks to roll out the same team for a third week in a row, except with Beauden Barrett and Codie Taylor returning to the 23 on the bench.

                  Roigard deserves a start but suspect Razor will be pretty happy with the one-two punch at the moment.

                  I feel like the one-two punch would be better the other way around though.

                  It's worth a try but Ratima has generally been quite good starting - he's not suddenly a bad starting halfback just because of a couple of indifferent games. There's something about bringing in Roigard's booming left boot later in the game that I think really helps.

                  It's a tough one because you really need to try and predict how the game is going to go from about 50 mins onward:
                  Is it going to open up and quicken in pace? In that case, maybe Ratima's slightly snappier delivery and combo with DMac is going to work better.
                  Or is it going to slow down a little, get tense and become a territorial chess match where you're trying to hold onto a lead or kick your way into point scoring positions? In that case, maybe Cam is the guy.

                  TBH, I'm just pleased we're having a conversation on which of two 9's should start rather than which one we think is going to fuck up less.

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                    @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                    Hotham, really? That's a pretty wild take - what have you seen from him this year that suggest that?

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                    @Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                      @Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.

                      I think his running game is great but his passing is pretty slow and inaccurate - not any better than Perenara or Christie.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                        @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                        Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          @Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.

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                          @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                          @Mr-Fish I like his passing, his vision and his calmness. All of those will serve him well at Test level.

                          Hotham’s pass?! FFS it’s worse that TJP’s pass

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                            @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                            Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass

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                            @junior said in All Blacks v France:

                            @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                            @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                            Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass

                            Yeah what?!

                            He's the last guy I'd want out there in a big test right now. I'd have Christie before him.

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                              @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                              @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                              Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass

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                              @junior said in All Blacks v France:

                              @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                              @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                              Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass

                              He's TJP mk II. I don't get it.

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                                I'd go with:

                                1 Williams 2 Aumua 3 Lomax 4 S. Barrett 5 Vaii 6 Sititi 7 Cane 8 Savea 9 Roigard 10 DMac 11 C Clarke 12 J. Barrett 13 R. Ioane 14 M. Telea 15. W. Jordan

                                16 C.Taylor 17 Ofa T 18 Tosi 19 Tuipulotu 20 Finau 21 TJP 22 B. Barrett 23 B. Proctor

                                TJP? Oh how the worm has turned

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                                @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

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                                  @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

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                                  @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                  @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

                                  I'd have Aumua starting again if his body pulls up well - and I'd be telling him to go hard for 50 minutes. Would love for us to have the luxury of bringing a fit Codie off the bench for 30mins.

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                                    @junior said in All Blacks v France:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                                    @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                                    Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass

                                    He's TJP mk II. I don't get it.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks v France:

                                    @junior said in All Blacks v France:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                                    @Machpants I've always thought TJP was reasonable at finishing out a game. Ratima seems a bit low on confidence. Hotham IMHO is our second best half back at the moment, but he is with the ABs XV.

                                    Hotham?! The guy who can’t pass

                                    He's TJP mk II. I don't get it.

                                    Coz Canty homer coz

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                                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

                                      I'd have Aumua starting again if his body pulls up well - and I'd be telling him to go hard for 50 minutes. Would love for us to have the luxury of bringing a fit Codie off the bench for 30mins.

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                                      @voodoo said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

                                      I'd have Aumua starting again if his body pulls up well - and I'd be telling him to go hard for 50 minutes. Would love for us to have the luxury of bring a fit Codie off the bench for 30mins.

                                      If Aumua continues to play to his undoubted potential the idea of a one two punch of him and Sami T is a terrifying prospect for any opposition

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                                        @voodoo said in All Blacks v France:

                                        @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                        @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

                                        I'd have Aumua starting again if his body pulls up well - and I'd be telling him to go hard for 50 minutes. Would love for us to have the luxury of bring a fit Codie off the bench for 30mins.

                                        If Aumua continues to play to his undoubted potential the idea of a one two punch of him and Sami T is a terrifying prospect for any opposition

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                                        @MN5
                                        Our forward pack is starting to look rather fearsome.👍
                                        How the heck did we make it to here.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @voodoo said in All Blacks v France:

                                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                          @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

                                          I'd have Aumua starting again if his body pulls up well - and I'd be telling him to go hard for 50 minutes. Would love for us to have the luxury of bring a fit Codie off the bench for 30mins.

                                          If Aumua continues to play to his undoubted potential the idea of a one two punch of him and Sami T is a terrifying prospect for any opposition

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                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks v France:

                                          @voodoo said in All Blacks v France:

                                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                          @Machpants just regarding Amua the game against Ireland was his 3rd start in a row I would be reluctant to change him out for Cody Taylor given his great form but I sense the coaches will bring Taylor back in

                                          I'd have Aumua starting again if his body pulls up well - and I'd be telling him to go hard for 50 minutes. Would love for us to have the luxury of bring a fit Codie off the bench for 30mins.

                                          If Aumua continues to play to his undoubted potential the idea of a one two punch of him and Sami T is a terrifying prospect for any opposition

                                          Aumua made me forget about Sami for a minute. That says a fair bit

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