All Blacks vs Ireland
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
You had a clit like a bookies pencil and your knowledge of rugby was bordering on non existent.
Keep the scarf. Your wardrobe just doubled.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
I have learned to not get annoyed at yc rulings but the first penalty was garbage.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
You had a clit like a bookies pencil and your knowledge of rugby was bordering on non existent.
Keep the scarf. Your wardrobe just doubled.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
You had a clit like a bookies pencil and your knowledge of rugby was bordering on non existent.
Keep the scarf. Your wardrobe just doubled.
I knew enough to tell you you're a shit Richie McCaw at just the right moment.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
I have learned to not get annoyed at yc rulings but the first penalty was garbage.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
I have learned to not get annoyed at yc rulings but the first penalty was garbage.
Stank of a referee predetermining pregame he was going to focus on one or two distinct aspects so forcing them instead of just reffing.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
We lost to them in 2016 & 2018 under Hansen and only a last minute try by arguably the greatest AB team of the modern error prevented a loss in '14.
GOM.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
We lost to them in 2016 & 2018 under Hansen and only a last minute try by arguably the greatest AB team of the modern error prevented a loss in '14.
GOM.
Is it pedants, pedant’s ou pedants’ club? Asking for a friend.
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By the way,did I imagine it, or was only half our Anthem played. I was in a pub here, so may have missed it, Mrs Dan said same as me.
If it was only half, I even more happy with win, you don't really f*** with anthems.@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
By the way,did I imagine it, or was only half our Anthem played. I was in a pub here, so may have missed it, Mrs Dan said same as me.
If it was only half, I even more happy with win, you don't really f*** with anthems.It was just the instrumental so I assume not much point in playing it twice? I'd assume AB management was informed of the order and manner of proceedings so can't really get too hot and bothered about.
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Great win I thought, where strangely enough, I feel like the conditions suited us more, as it really stunted Ireland's ability to use the ball. Have to agree with people criticising Nic Berry. He was awful, and Ireland used it to their advantage, having said that, Ratima got away with a blatant strip on the ground on Aki so bad calls were going both ways.
How good was Aumua? He was probably my man of the match, closely followed by Sititi. Man he was into everything. Carried strongly, smashed players, and won a couple of turnovers too. Is he a better starter (not suggesting he starts every test)? Sititi was strong as usual. His carries get us out of trouble a lot, he really uses his shoulders well before going into contact with ball in hand as you see defenders get bumped off constantly by him and his work on defence too. Wins a lot of ball back.
The side we're putting out currently is a lot stronger than what we had previously been putting out earlier in the season too, especially the bench, and funnily enough, injury has been the cause of a fair few changes. It's gone from looking extremely bland with journeymen to actually looking like a strength all of a sudden.
7 is probably the only wide open spot right now once Cane leaves. I'd love to see Lakai get given a go. Obviously Ardie will always be 8 regardless of how good or bad he's going, but I think Finau, Lakai and Sititi is the future. Would love to see it one day.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Great win I thought, where strangely enough, I feel like the conditions suited us more, as it really stunted Ireland's ability to use the ball. Have to agree with people criticising Nic Berry. He was awful, and Ireland used it to their advantage, having said that, Ratima got away with a blatant strip on the ground on Aki so bad calls were going both ways.
How good was Aumua? He was probably my man of the match, closely followed by Sititi. Man he was into everything. Carried strongly, smashed players, and won a couple of turnovers too. Is he a better starter (not suggesting he starts every test)? Sititi was strong as usual. His carries get us out of trouble a lot, he really uses his shoulders well before going into contact with ball in hand as you see defenders get bumped off constantly by him and his work on defence too. Wins a lot of ball back.
The side we're putting out currently is a lot stronger than what we had previously been putting out earlier in the season too, especially the bench, and funnily enough, injury has been the cause of a fair few changes. It's gone from looking extremely bland with journeymen to actually looking like a strength all of a sudden.
7 is probably the only wide open spot right now once Cane leaves. I'd love to see Lakai get given a go. Obviously Ardie will always be 8 regardless of how good or bad he's going, but I think Finau, Lakai and Sititi is the future. Would love to see it one day.
NB was allowing Ireland to push around the ruck which starved Rat of clean ball. When it became obvious he wasn't going to PK Ireland we needed to get two more blokes in there cleaning up. The rucks were mostly better for CamRoi.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
Mate, a few minutes to play, put the opposition in their own 22 for a lineout. Whatever this kid has done to your family, let it go.
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Ireland will be hugely disappointed with their performance. So many unforced errors and so many silly infringements, they even got away with a bit at ruck time so the penalty count could have been even worse for them. That's the least accurate performance I have seen from them in a long time, though admittedly I don't watch them very often.
For the ABs - lots of positives after a win in enemy territory like that.
- Sititi is the real deal, he's either been very good or outstanding every time he has started. Today he was very good against a big Irish pack - at 22 that is quite incredible. The start he has had to his test career reminds me of the way the GOAT started... just seems made for it.
- DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
- Rieko was awesome on defense and at ruck time, and always dangerous with the ball in hand holding a lot of attention.
- Our bomb squad made an immediate difference, I was calling for them to be brought on with Roigard at the 50 minute mark and I think if they were we could have arrested control a bit sooner. But we have the makings of a bench that is 'impact' instead of 'injury cover' there.
- SB, Vaa'i and PT locking combo is as good as any in the world. PT has really come of age as a leader after a standout Super season.
- Aumua was a beast at hooker, starting to realise his potential. Had an impact in all facets - ruck time, defense, ball in hand and solid at set piece bar one not straight, which under the new rules shouldn't have been called anyway.
I still think we are making too many errors and poor decisions that let the other side back in though - Ireland squandered a lot of opportunities in that 2nd 40 with unforced errors. But overall a step in the right direction, particularly with the bench closing out the game which has been absent all season.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
Everyone knows DMac can run and sidestep with the best but today the error rate was reduced and his long pragmatic touch finders were pure gold.
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Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
Mentioned this when it happened live. Was told I was wrong. Glad I'm not the only one who recognised this.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
Everyone knows DMac can run and sidestep with the best but today the error rate was reduced and his long pragmatic touch finders were pure gold.
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
Everyone knows DMac can run and sidestep with the best but today the error rate was reduced and his long pragmatic touch finders were pure gold.
And goal kicking
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
Mate, a few minutes to play, put the opposition in their own 22 for a lineout. Whatever this kid has done to your family, let it go.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
Mate, a few minutes to play, put the opposition in their own 22 for a lineout. Whatever this kid has done to your family, let it go.
I'm a Jordan fan, have him locked in to start at 15, and it was a bad option: Barrettesque. Kicking the ball away when we want to control possession. Executing it poorly so we lose both possession and territory. Lowe was in good position. The odds of him hitting the 50-22 were small, but if he doesn't have the ball they're a lot slimmer.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
Everyone knows DMac can run and sidestep with the best but today the error rate was reduced and his long pragmatic touch finders were pure gold.
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
Everyone knows DMac can run and sidestep with the best but today the error rate was reduced and his long pragmatic touch finders were pure gold.
He kicks long and often for the Chiefs and has done for two full years - everyone should know that by now too I reckon.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
Mate, a few minutes to play, put the opposition in their own 22 for a lineout. Whatever this kid has done to your family, let it go.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
Mate, a few minutes to play, put the opposition in their own 22 for a lineout. Whatever this kid has done to your family, let it go.
They were under pressure, we were running hot, he did his usual schizo and only cared about him so did his cute, aimless dink ahead. Brainless play. Repro has it covered.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
By the way,did I imagine it, or was only half our Anthem played. I was in a pub here, so may have missed it, Mrs Dan said same as me.
If it was only half, I even more happy with win, you don't really f*** with anthems.It was just the instrumental so I assume not much point in playing it twice? I'd assume AB management was informed of the order and manner of proceedings so can't really get too hot and bothered about.
@Frye said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
By the way,did I imagine it, or was only half our Anthem played. I was in a pub here, so may have missed it, Mrs Dan said same as me.
If it was only half, I even more happy with win, you don't really f*** with anthems.It was just the instrumental so I assume not much point in playing it twice? I'd assume AB management was informed of the order and manner of proceedings so can't really get too hot and bothered about.
ABs didn't know about, Clarke looked pissed. But officially they played our national anthem, we just sing it twice in two different languages nowadays.
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Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
- No, second man, no danger, penalty. Watch 3 secs more and see aumua do the same thing around someone's head on a clean out. Not a yellow
- No. Vaii changed his line, he ran to in front of the catcher not directly to the ball. I think he may have got away with it last week, but some new emphasis from this weekend from WR. Yes, Lowe is a fake potato fucker tool
- No, whether it was gamesmanship, probably was, they both fell over and it looked like an accident enough for him to get away with it
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@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
- No, second man, no danger, penalty. Watch 3 secs more and see aumua do the same thing around someone's head on a clean out. Not a yellow
- No. Vaii changed his line, he ran to in front of the catcher not directly to the ball. I think he may have got away with it last week, but some new emphasis from this weekend from WR. Yes, Lowe is a fake potato fucker tool
- No, whether it was gamesmanship, probably was, they both fell over and it looked like an accident enough for him to get away with it
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
- No, second man, no danger, penalty. Watch 3 secs more and see aumua do the same thing around someone's head on a clean out. Not a yellow
- No. Vaii changed his line, he ran to in front of the catcher not directly to the ball. I think he may have got away with it last week, but some new emphasis from this weekend from WR. Yes, Lowe is a fake potato fucker tool
- No, whether it was gamesmanship, probably was, they both fell over and it looked like an accident enough for him to get away with it
Re #1 about the only thing I saw with the quick tap is that the Irish were never back 10... just doesn't seem to get called very often... ARs should be all over that...
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Watching replay and highlights etc - the way The English and Irish celebrate knock ons, penalties , free kicks etc -- literally running to flex in front of the cameras at times ..... very cringe
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I normally try to restrict my comments on refs to a single sentence or so, but Berry was not up to standard in this game. The penalty on Jordie with the high kick - he really could have called the same on almost every high kick all game if he is going to set the line there. It would be a good change for us and a bad one for SA in theory (because they've been much better than us at protecting their players) - but fuck it's hard to see how you can ref that consistently without every high kick being a penalty to the kicking team. Jordie didn't even look back, he just ran towards the ball, and if he goes sideways and hits someone then he'll get done for changing his line. So what's he meant to do, run backwards so he can see them, and actively dodge the chasers? Weird shit.
Berry let the Irish slow our ruck ball down and interfere with the halfback all first half - and even though he missed a heap he still penalised them enough that they should have been on a YC. The one where the ref said "he's trying" (to roll away) really irritated me. So what if he's fucking trying, every time there's a knock-on the guy "was trying" to catch it but you don't ignore the rules because of that do you? That's where a lot of the trouble for Ratima was coming from. The charge-down was bad, and a couple of other little errors - but where was the protection from our forwards? Credit where it is due though, we seemed to fix that in the second half.
The ruck turnover reffing was a lottery. McKenzie got hit late with no arms by JGP and nothing happened.
The Aumua not straight with no Irish competing and then what followed, jesus christ. The Irish scrum from that where the ball spat out the side - if not a penalty to us, did not come back out the channel, should have been play on. Then he free kicks them on the reset scrum, but misses that they don't get back 10 - fortunately Savea gets tackled around the neck and he gets that one - but then ignores the offside play at the next ruck - and every one he misses is a miss in the consistent offending yellow card stakes.
I thought the Jordie yellow card was wrong too - he's slightly wrong-footed and initial contact is shoulder. Penalty yes, foul play no.
Anyway, enough whinging about the ref. He was shit, got a heap of stuff wrong both ways, but I get ranty when fluffybunnies are allowed to slow down ruck ball, because fast ruck ball is what makes for good attacking rugby. On to the game:
Very glad to see McKenzie with some long clearances as per his Chiefs play. High kicks all on the money too. Mistakes, yep, but he's still the guy creating the tries and kicking the points. Someone quicker than Tupou Vaai needs to be chasing those goal kicks too, when they do hit the posts.
For all the premature hero-worship, Roigard's passing was a little less accurate than Ratima's when he came on. Rucks were a lot cleaner. His kicking game is really helpful in the latter stages and he's calm - he may well be the better player in either position, but I think I'd leave him on the bench for now, and sub early - mostly due to our previous weakness late in games.
Sititi pretty good. Savea one good turnover and solid I suppose. Cane continues to be what he is: the slow warrior.
Aumua: love to say i told you so, needed minutes. I'd keep him starting and with Taylor back with his wide running, reliable throwing and experienced head our bench gets stronger again.
Props were all good. I do wonder if De Groot might have moved us from a slightly dominant scrum up to a dominant penalty-winning scrum out there though.
All three locks good too.
Midfield defence was really good. Helped by a thousand Irish knock-ons of course, but I was impressed, and also Jordie's kick-off reception work and Rieko's hands deserve a mention.
Telea was very elusive again, a few turnovers though. Clarke solid.
Jordan the odd dumb thing but he is much more involved from fullback and at the rate he scores tries that's got to be a good thing.
Overall I thought we were the better side by more than ten points, with what wasn't a great Irish performance at all - but the constant infringing prevented us from scoring tries and no YC forthcoming for it kept the score down, along with our YC. I think turning down 3 points to keep the pressure on when the other side is on a YC warning is worth considering.@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I normally try to restrict my comments on refs to a single sentence or so, but Berry was not up to standard in this game. The penalty on Jordie with the high kick - he really could have called the same on almost every high kick all game if he is going to set the line there. It would be a good change for us and a bad one for SA in theory (because they've been much better than us at protecting their players) - but fuck it's hard to see how you can ref that consistently without every high kick being a penalty to the kicking team. Jordie didn't even look back, he just ran towards the ball, and if he goes sideways and hits someone then he'll get done for changing his line. So what's he meant to do, run backwards so he can see them, and actively dodge the chasers? Weird shit.
It was subtle but it looked to me like Hansen sought that contact too , and why wouldn't you? Easy penalty.
