All Blacks vs Ireland
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
We lost to them in 2016 & 2018 under Hansen and only a last minute try by arguably the greatest AB team of the modern error prevented a loss in '14.
GOM.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
We lost to them in 2016 & 2018 under Hansen and only a last minute try by arguably the greatest AB team of the modern error prevented a loss in '14.
GOM.
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Well watched that in a bar in Wales( apparentlyJerry Collins old regular), and loved it. That was f***en good win. Will sleep well tonight.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Well watched that in a bar in Wales( apparentlyJerry Collins old regular)
In honour of Jerry you should tackle someone on the way out...
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@Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Frank Just imagine the score if Mehrts was playing.
That Cantab turnstile who bottled important kicks? That one?
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
That Jordan try in the corner DMac threw the cut out pass to Sititi and the ball landed on the ground in front of him. A great piece of skill to gather it and shift it on under pressure.
Likewise Aumua to take the ball off the bounce and shift to Jordan
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
That Jordan try in the corner DMac threw the cut out pass to Sititi and the ball landed on the ground in front of him. A great piece of skill to gather it and shift it on under pressure.
Likewise Aumua to take the ball off the bounce and shift to Jordan
That was better skill
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I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
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Some interesting little stats from Rugby Pass -
13 months ago when the teams last clashed the Irish ‘won’ 14-3 in the 20-minute period in which the All Blacks were down two players to yellow cards in Paris but they were decisively ‘beaten’ 10-25 in the hour when the contest was 15 versus 15.
Friday night was another occasion when the Irish simply couldn’t handle New Zealand when the numbers in personnel were the same. Ireland ‘won’ 10-3 the 10 minutes that Jordie Barrett spent in the sin bin following his foul play ‘hello’ to Garry Ringrose, his soon-to-be teammate at Leinster.
However, the 15 versus 15 part of the match convincingly went the way of the All Blacks on a 20-3 scoreline. That’s quite the jarring margin and a proper reflection of the gap that existed between the teams in terms of performance.
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Some interesting little stats from Rugby Pass -
13 months ago when the teams last clashed the Irish ‘won’ 14-3 in the 20-minute period in which the All Blacks were down two players to yellow cards in Paris but they were decisively ‘beaten’ 10-25 in the hour when the contest was 15 versus 15.
Friday night was another occasion when the Irish simply couldn’t handle New Zealand when the numbers in personnel were the same. Ireland ‘won’ 10-3 the 10 minutes that Jordie Barrett spent in the sin bin following his foul play ‘hello’ to Garry Ringrose, his soon-to-be teammate at Leinster.
However, the 15 versus 15 part of the match convincingly went the way of the All Blacks on a 20-3 scoreline. That’s quite the jarring margin and a proper reflection of the gap that existed between the teams in terms of performance.
Excellent analysis
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@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
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Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
You had a clit like a bookies pencil and your knowledge of rugby was bordering on non existent.
Keep the scarf. Your wardrobe just doubled.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
I have learned to not get annoyed at yc rulings but the first penalty was garbage.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
You had a clit like a bookies pencil and your knowledge of rugby was bordering on non existent.
Keep the scarf. Your wardrobe just doubled.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
I can’t be bothered scrolling up the thread, but can anyone confirm if @Jet is now 9 months away from being dad to a future Ireland prop?
You dont get pregnant the way I do it.
I actually did mange to get some lip action from a local lass and I will not deign to make contact with her henceforth as advertised.
Can I have your scarf then? Hope you liked my accent.
You had a clit like a bookies pencil and your knowledge of rugby was bordering on non existent.
Keep the scarf. Your wardrobe just doubled.
I knew enough to tell you you're a shit Richie McCaw at just the right moment.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
I have learned to not get annoyed at yc rulings but the first penalty was garbage.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Was that our best performance with our discipline? Makes a difference when we aren’t being pinged every couple of minutes with silly penalties.
I though Barrett’s penalty and YC was pretty unlucky
Yep good but both Barrett decisions were correct.
I have learned to not get annoyed at yc rulings but the first penalty was garbage.
Stank of a referee predetermining pregame he was going to focus on one or two distinct aspects so forcing them instead of just reffing.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
We lost to them in 2016 & 2018 under Hansen and only a last minute try by arguably the greatest AB team of the modern error prevented a loss in '14.
GOM.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
We lost to them in 2016 & 2018 under Hansen and only a last minute try by arguably the greatest AB team of the modern error prevented a loss in '14.
GOM.
Is it pedants, pedant’s ou pedants’ club? Asking for a friend.
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By the way,did I imagine it, or was only half our Anthem played. I was in a pub here, so may have missed it, Mrs Dan said same as me.
If it was only half, I even more happy with win, you don't really f*** with anthems.@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
By the way,did I imagine it, or was only half our Anthem played. I was in a pub here, so may have missed it, Mrs Dan said same as me.
If it was only half, I even more happy with win, you don't really f*** with anthems.It was just the instrumental so I assume not much point in playing it twice? I'd assume AB management was informed of the order and manner of proceedings so can't really get too hot and bothered about.
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Great win I thought, where strangely enough, I feel like the conditions suited us more, as it really stunted Ireland's ability to use the ball. Have to agree with people criticising Nic Berry. He was awful, and Ireland used it to their advantage, having said that, Ratima got away with a blatant strip on the ground on Aki so bad calls were going both ways.
How good was Aumua? He was probably my man of the match, closely followed by Sititi. Man he was into everything. Carried strongly, smashed players, and won a couple of turnovers too. Is he a better starter (not suggesting he starts every test)? Sititi was strong as usual. His carries get us out of trouble a lot, he really uses his shoulders well before going into contact with ball in hand as you see defenders get bumped off constantly by him and his work on defence too. Wins a lot of ball back.
The side we're putting out currently is a lot stronger than what we had previously been putting out earlier in the season too, especially the bench, and funnily enough, injury has been the cause of a fair few changes. It's gone from looking extremely bland with journeymen to actually looking like a strength all of a sudden.
7 is probably the only wide open spot right now once Cane leaves. I'd love to see Lakai get given a go. Obviously Ardie will always be 8 regardless of how good or bad he's going, but I think Finau, Lakai and Sititi is the future. Would love to see it one day.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Great win I thought, where strangely enough, I feel like the conditions suited us more, as it really stunted Ireland's ability to use the ball. Have to agree with people criticising Nic Berry. He was awful, and Ireland used it to their advantage, having said that, Ratima got away with a blatant strip on the ground on Aki so bad calls were going both ways.
How good was Aumua? He was probably my man of the match, closely followed by Sititi. Man he was into everything. Carried strongly, smashed players, and won a couple of turnovers too. Is he a better starter (not suggesting he starts every test)? Sititi was strong as usual. His carries get us out of trouble a lot, he really uses his shoulders well before going into contact with ball in hand as you see defenders get bumped off constantly by him and his work on defence too. Wins a lot of ball back.
The side we're putting out currently is a lot stronger than what we had previously been putting out earlier in the season too, especially the bench, and funnily enough, injury has been the cause of a fair few changes. It's gone from looking extremely bland with journeymen to actually looking like a strength all of a sudden.
7 is probably the only wide open spot right now once Cane leaves. I'd love to see Lakai get given a go. Obviously Ardie will always be 8 regardless of how good or bad he's going, but I think Finau, Lakai and Sititi is the future. Would love to see it one day.
NB was allowing Ireland to push around the ruck which starved Rat of clean ball. When it became obvious he wasn't going to PK Ireland we needed to get two more blokes in there cleaning up. The rucks were mostly better for CamRoi.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.
That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!
Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.
Mate, a few minutes to play, put the opposition in their own 22 for a lineout. Whatever this kid has done to your family, let it go.
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Ireland will be hugely disappointed with their performance. So many unforced errors and so many silly infringements, they even got away with a bit at ruck time so the penalty count could have been even worse for them. That's the least accurate performance I have seen from them in a long time, though admittedly I don't watch them very often.
For the ABs - lots of positives after a win in enemy territory like that.
- Sititi is the real deal, he's either been very good or outstanding every time he has started. Today he was very good against a big Irish pack - at 22 that is quite incredible. The start he has had to his test career reminds me of the way the GOAT started... just seems made for it.
- DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
- Rieko was awesome on defense and at ruck time, and always dangerous with the ball in hand holding a lot of attention.
- Our bomb squad made an immediate difference, I was calling for them to be brought on with Roigard at the 50 minute mark and I think if they were we could have arrested control a bit sooner. But we have the makings of a bench that is 'impact' instead of 'injury cover' there.
- SB, Vaa'i and PT locking combo is as good as any in the world. PT has really come of age as a leader after a standout Super season.
- Aumua was a beast at hooker, starting to realise his potential. Had an impact in all facets - ruck time, defense, ball in hand and solid at set piece bar one not straight, which under the new rules shouldn't have been called anyway.
I still think we are making too many errors and poor decisions that let the other side back in though - Ireland squandered a lot of opportunities in that 2nd 40 with unforced errors. But overall a step in the right direction, particularly with the bench closing out the game which has been absent all season.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
DMac's clearances alone make him our best bet at 10 and he was also very good in all aspects of his play. Best 10 we have had since DC IMO.
Everyone knows DMac can run and sidestep with the best but today the error rate was reduced and his long pragmatic touch finders were pure gold.
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Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Couple of reffing things I noted. This is a touch one eyed, but I don't care.
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2:30. When Ardie took the quick tap and was tackled around the neck why was that not a yellow card? If Jordie getting wrong 40 out which affects nothing is a yellow card, why is a tackler getting it wrong on a guy 2 metres out from the line not a card?
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5:50, t was pre determined that we were going to block kicks from Berry. The restart where Lowe ran straight into Vaai was a lesson in milking by Lowe. There was plenty of room, Vaai didn't move and Lowe chose to run into him. His celebrating afterwards was a bit pathetic. I gave him a pass for his 50-22, but what I giveth, I can take awayth.
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0:56. Ratima spill then take the gap, Sititi was tripped in support. I firmly believe in the reverse, the TMO would have pointed it out and we would have been yellow carded. Does anybody really disagree?
Mentioned this when it happened live. Was told I was wrong. Glad I'm not the only one who recognised this.
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