All Blacks v France
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For the whole 'why take 3' argument
The only try we constructed was Lakai's in the first 10 minutes (Roigard's was a piece of individual brilliance)
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
For the whole 'why take 3' argument
The only try we constructed was Lakai's in the first 10 minutes (Roigard's was a piece of individual brilliance)
You miss what the scrum did immediately prior?
But I agree, have no issue with taking the points.
Someone was talking about the Bok's self belief. Well the ABs backed their self belief in their ability to score again.
With 6 mins left it was an ok call.
Was throwing the dice panicking?
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Jordie Barrett's injury was very influential. His power in midfield had the French defense guessing. AJ Lam should have been on the bench instead of ALB. This year, young guys coming in thanks to injuries to "top" players have been a success (Sititi, Tosi, Lakai). So why not Lam ? ALB is so average.
@cgrant said in All Blacks v France:
Jordie Barrett's injury was very influential. His power in midfield had the French defense guessing. AJ Lam should have been on the bench instead of ALB. This year, young guys coming in thanks to injuries to "top" players have been a success (Sititi, Tosi, Lakai). So why not Lam ? ALB is so average.
yes I think ALB apart from one game hasn't shown enough impact.
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Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.
One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.
We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.
We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v France:
Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.
One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.
We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.
We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.
I like to think we are building and thought at half time we'd kicked on from Lansdowne Road, but the same dumb play came back to haunt us.
Fuck knows what it is, but there seems to be some sort of death wish or mind virus which affects us all too often. This despite some real talent coming thru or coming of age.
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I think it's time for the Barrett brothers gimmick to be put to bed. Scott isn't the answer at captain, Beauden is out of date by a couple of seasons and Jordie barely gets a pass mark.
The 3 points with 5 to go is a pathetic call.
Also, anybody know what Havilli has added to this tour? Instagram shows me he's doing nothing but playing golf? Probably best, if he were playing he'd be throwing intercept passes.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
The guy who got shafted was Narawa
Barely saw the field for the ABs this year then discarded
Was he injured out of ABXV?
He got dropped between the July series and The Rugby Championship
Of course Reece didn't....
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
The guy who got shafted was Narawa
Barely saw the field for the ABs this year then discarded
Was he injured out of ABXV?
He got dropped between the July series and The Rugby Championship
Of course Reece didn't....
From the ABs, but what was story with ABXV? Not selected or injured? (Can't remember.)
If the former that is a mistake.
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Fuck JK, ask the kid on debut if we should have gone the corner? What do you expect him to say?
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Wallace Sititi and Tupou Vaii have been the players of the season. Tamati Williams and Asafa Aumua have taken strides forward. Caleb Clarke and Tyrell Lomax have gone okay.
But apart from that it doesn't feel like we are going anywhere. A rather disappointing season.
DMac has gone ok with more experience. Not just Vaa'i but also Patty T and Darry-we are now ok with locks. Lakai (does anyone want to go back to Cane, EB or Jacobson?) Tosi for bench-shaking impact. In the backs Cam R, Proctor and Love. In the future possibly Hotham as backup if Ratima doesn't work out.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Wallace Sititi and Tupou Vaii have been the players of the season. Tamati Williams and Asafa Aumua have taken strides forward. Caleb Clarke and Tyrell Lomax have gone okay.
But apart from that it doesn't feel like we are going anywhere. A rather disappointing season.
DMac has gone ok with more experience. Not just Vaa'i but also Patty T and Darry-we are now ok with locks. Lakai (does anyone want to go back to Cane, EB or Jacobson?). Tosi for bench-shaking impact, In the backs Cam R, Proctor and Love. In the future possibly Hotham as backup if Ratima doesn't work out.
Add Lord and Holland (I'm on the Dutchie's bandwagon).
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
The guy who got shafted was Narawa
Barely saw the field for the ABs this year then discarded
Was he injured out of ABXV?
He got dropped between the July series and The Rugby Championship
Of course Reece didn't....
From the ABs, but what was story with ABXV? Not selected or injured? (Can't remember.)
If the former that is a mistake.
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
The guy who got shafted was Narawa
Barely saw the field for the ABs this year then discarded
Was he injured out of ABXV?
He got dropped between the July series and The Rugby Championship
Of course Reece didn't....
From the ABs, but what was story with ABXV? Not selected or injured? (Can't remember.)
If the former that is a mistake.
Yeah injured I believe
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Increasingly noticeable for me how 10 and 15 aren't prepared in Super rugby in certain areas for the international level, such as kicking.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Wallace Sititi and Tupou Vaii have been the players of the season. Tamati Williams and Asafa Aumua have taken strides forward. Caleb Clarke and Tyrell Lomax have gone okay.
But apart from that it doesn't feel like we are going anywhere. A rather disappointing season.
DMac has gone ok with more experience. Not just Vaa'i but also Patty T and Darry-we are now ok with locks. Lakai (does anyone want to go back to Cane, EB or Jacobson?). Tosi for bench-shaking impact, In the backs Cam R, Proctor and Love. In the future possibly Hotham as backup if Ratima doesn't work out.
Add Lord and Holland (I'm on the Dutchie's bandwagon).
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Wallace Sititi and Tupou Vaii have been the players of the season. Tamati Williams and Asafa Aumua have taken strides forward. Caleb Clarke and Tyrell Lomax have gone okay.
But apart from that it doesn't feel like we are going anywhere. A rather disappointing season.
DMac has gone ok with more experience. Not just Vaa'i but also Patty T and Darry-we are now ok with locks. Lakai (does anyone want to go back to Cane, EB or Jacobson?). Tosi for bench-shaking impact, In the backs Cam R, Proctor and Love. In the future possibly Hotham as backup if Ratima doesn't work out.
Add Lord and Holland (I'm on the Dutchie's bandwagon).
it is a big Dutch bandwagon. Holland looks an exciting prospect.
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@LagerLout said in All Blacks v France:
@Billy-Tell Well, I think we are. We met an off colour Irish side and didn't have to do much to beat them, England we simply got lucky. Robertson has been let off the hook the first couple of tests. I see some massive problems with this squad and the coaching/calls. I hope I'm wrong, but it's not looking good.
Bollocks. We'd have been unlucky to lose.
I see definite development and I'm not seeing mid-Foster era ineffectiveness.
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v France:
@Billy-Tell Well, I think we are. We met an off colour Irish side and didn't have to do much to beat them, England we simply got lucky. Robertson has been let off the hook the first couple of tests. I see some massive problems with this squad and the coaching/calls. I hope I'm wrong, but it's not looking good.
Bollocks. We'd have been unlucky to lose.
I see definite development and I'm not seeing mid-Foster era ineffectiveness.
Player stocks and development I agree.
Mental side of things and consistency is still poor.
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Need to find a winger with top end pace to complement Clarke. Reece has played his last test match and not sure if we can persist with Talea who isn't fast either. Naholo might be the answer if he can stay injury free.
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We're amazing at attacking everywhere from the field, until we get to 10 metres out from the tryline.
Seem to be able to get to the opposition tryline with EASE which has been the massive improvement for us since the Foster era.But once we get there we seem to NEVER be able to convert possession there into a Try.
We should have been up by 20 in the first half (I still believe with Dmac we would have been so am still fuming about that selection decision..).
Robertson needs to work on that during the off season to get this team humming.
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I think it's time for the Barrett brothers gimmick to be put to bed. Scott isn't the answer at captain, Beauden is out of date by a couple of seasons and Jordie barely gets a pass mark.
The 3 points with 5 to go is a pathetic call.
Also, anybody know what Havilli has added to this tour? Instagram shows me he's doing nothing but playing golf? Probably best, if he were playing he'd be throwing intercept passes.
@Halfback said in All Blacks v France:
I think it's time for the Barrett brothers gimmick to be put to bed. Scott isn't the answer at captain, Beauden is out of date by a couple of seasons and Jordie barely gets a pass mark.
The 3 points with 5 to go is a pathetic call.
Also, anybody know what Havilli has added to this tour? Instagram shows me he's doing nothing but playing golf? Probably best, if he were playing he'd be throwing intercept passes.
They each stand on their own merits.
Scott looks like a good captain to me. Measured and one of our best players every game.
BB reverts to type and chooses the kick option too much. These were all poor:
- half time drop goal
- cross kick to Reece
- grubber in their 22
Jordie is Jordie.
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Need to find a winger with top end pace to complement Clarke. Reece has played his last test match and not sure if we can persist with Talea who isn't fast either. Naholo might be the answer if he can stay injury free.
@akan004 said in All Blacks v France:
Need to find a winger with top end pace to complement Clarke. Reece has played his last test match and not sure if we can persist with Talea who isn't fast either. Naholo might be the answer if he can stay injury free.
Reece was fine for me. Yes he got run over by a faster wing but he had other attributes. Made good yardage at rucks. I like Emoni Narawa for all his skills.
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The gap between Cam and Ratima, and Mark and Sevu is considerable. I think Ratima will improve and be a decent sub, Reece's place must be at risk. So much to like about the performance, frustrating that we let things go in the second half. Razor definitely needs to up his half time chat game. Lakai looks like he belongs, Jordan belongs.... on the wing....
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Need to find a winger with top end pace to complement Clarke. Reece has played his last test match and not sure if we can persist with Talea who isn't fast either. Naholo might be the answer if he can stay injury free.
@akan004 said in All Blacks v France:
Need to find a winger with top end pace to complement Clarke. Reece has played his last test match and not sure if we can persist with Talea who isn't fast either. Naholo might be the answer if he can stay injury free.
Or Jordan at 14 with Love at 15. There are several options but not Reece.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/b4/28/4db4289d837240d0f314284bdb7c9058.gif
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Problem I have with Razor is many of his selections and tactics seemed like he was just trying not to lose, meanwhile we lost a lot of games we could have won anyway so that experience did not help us. Let’s be real he should have been working on replacements for Reiko , ALB, Reece, Beaudie for months.
