Italy v All Blacks

Bones

I'm interested to see if he'll be prepared to accept that a 23 shirt is the best he'll get.

Depends on his character I guess - me I'd be happy getting paid just as much to sit on the bench and play less.

African Monkey

Far out he's conservative with selections for a guy who we got told wasn't afraid to make big decisions and has all these innovative ideas.

mencey

Cannot believe D Havili is even near this team. Until we get rid of the dead wood we are never getting anywhere. I hope to fuck next year we pick totally on form and not just the coaches favourite player.s Terrible !!!

game_film

Compare and contrast the fortunes of Havili and Sotutu. It ain’t right, I’m telling ya, it ain’t right.

Darren

I was so hopeful when Razor took over. Might see some innovation, new tactics and players.
Turned out to be a bit of a joke.
Only time he has given a new inform player a shot is if the old out of form incumbent is injured.
He really can't take any credit for newbies starring, they are only playing because he had no other options - Sititi
Why are we not trying things in midfield, when it's obvious they are a handbrake - Lam and Proctor, at least give them a shot to see what they can do.
Jordan al 15 doesn't work, why not try the in form Love?

I was so hopeful this year, but feel really let down, it's just Foster 2.0
If only we had someone like Schmidt, who gives a guy playing his first pro game a start.

Feel like he pulled the wool over our eyes.

Bones

@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

Sititi

I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

sparky

I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.

On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?

African Monkey

@game_film said in Italy v All Blacks:

Compare and contrast the fortunes of Havili and Sotutu. It ain’t right, I’m telling ya, it ain’t right.

Havili is good on both sides of the ball.

Daffy Jaffy

Italy:
15 Ange Capuozzo, 14 Jacopo Trulla, 13 Juan Ignacio Brex (c), 12 Tommaso Menoncello, 11 Monty Ioane, 10 Paolo Garbisi, 9 Martin Page-Relo, 8 Ross Vintcent, 7 Manuel Zuliani, 6 Sebastian Negri, 5 Dino Lamb, 4 Federico Ruzza, 3 Marco Riccioni, 2 Gianmarco Lucchesi, 1 Danilo Fischetti
Replacements: 16 Giacomo Nicotera, 17 Mirco Spagnolo 18 Simone Ferrari, 19 Niccolò Cannone, 20 Alessandro Izekor, 21 Alessandro Garbisi, 22 Leonardo Marin 23 Marco Zanon

Referee: Pierre Brousset (France)
Assistant Referees: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia), Ludovic Cayre (France)
TMO: Tual Trainini (France)

Daffy Jaffy

kiwiinmelb

@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

Sititi

I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

They fluked that one imo

reprobate

So Razor is just thick as fuck eh. That's a shame.
I like the idea of playing the core of the top team and making minor changes to fit new guys into the pattern and see what they can do. But his top team is badly wrong at 10 and he's not giving the new guys a chance unless injury forces his hand.

mikey07

Thoughts Havili would get in the reserves. Like you guys very miffed at the non selection of Love.

Bones

@kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:

@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

Sititi

I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

They fluked that one imo

Yeah that's what I meant!

Bovidae

@maroon Some of my rugby stuff might still be on display at the Six Nations pub.

Bovidae

@KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

So conservative he could be called Republican Razor

A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.

canefan

@Bovidae said in Italy v All Blacks:

@KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

So conservative he could be called Republican Razor

A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.

Rasnus is playing Chess

African Monkey

@kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:

@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

Sititi

I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

They fluked that one imo

Like, credit for picking Sititi and Tosi in the first place but yeah, if it weren't for injury, they probably would have only played against Japan if Blackadder and Newell stayed fit.

dogmeat

@ACT-Crusader said in Italy v All Blacks:

@Landers92 said in Italy v All Blacks:

@frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:

I would have liked to have seen Bell, Holland etc. get a game, but other than it being nice for them and their families, I am not sure it proves anything, because of the level of opposition, and the fact the next test is 9 months after this

And playing your near full strength squad does?

ALL BLACKS: v ITALY 2004 EOYT
S. Taumoepeau
A. D. Oliver
C. J. Hayman
C. R. Jack
N. M. C. Maxwell
J. Collins
R. H. McCaw
M. M. Tuiali'i
B. T. Kelleher
D. W. Carter
J. T. Rokocoko
J. F. Umaga (C)
C. G. Smith
R. L. Gear
J. M. Muliaina

Totally different circumstances. Italy was the first game of the NH tour, the AB's hadn't played for 3 months and Ted made 9 changes for the next game against Wales.

pakman

@Bones What time zone are you in at the mo?

The Silver Fern

Italy v All Blacks