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Italy v All Blacks

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  • D Darren

    I was so hopeful when Razor took over. Might see some innovation, new tactics and players.
    Turned out to be a bit of a joke.
    Only time he has given a new inform player a shot is if the old out of form incumbent is injured.
    He really can't take any credit for newbies starring, they are only playing because he had no other options - Sititi
    Why are we not trying things in midfield, when it's obvious they are a handbrake - Lam and Proctor, at least give them a shot to see what they can do.
    Jordan al 15 doesn't work, why not try the in form Love?

    I was so hopeful this year, but feel really let down, it's just Foster 2.0
    If only we had someone like Schmidt, who gives a guy playing his first pro game a start.

    Feel like he pulled the wool over our eyes.

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    @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

    Sititi

    I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

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      I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.

      On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?

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      • G game_film

        Compare and contrast the fortunes of Havili and Sotutu. It ain’t right, I’m telling ya, it ain’t right.

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        @game_film said in Italy v All Blacks:

        Compare and contrast the fortunes of Havili and Sotutu. It ain’t right, I’m telling ya, it ain’t right.

        Havili is good on both sides of the ball.

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          Italy:
          15 Ange Capuozzo, 14 Jacopo Trulla, 13 Juan Ignacio Brex (c), 12 Tommaso Menoncello, 11 Monty Ioane, 10 Paolo Garbisi, 9 Martin Page-Relo, 8 Ross Vintcent, 7 Manuel Zuliani, 6 Sebastian Negri, 5 Dino Lamb, 4 Federico Ruzza, 3 Marco Riccioni, 2 Gianmarco Lucchesi, 1 Danilo Fischetti
          Replacements: 16 Giacomo Nicotera, 17 Mirco Spagnolo 18 Simone Ferrari, 19 Niccolò Cannone, 20 Alessandro Izekor, 21 Alessandro Garbisi, 22 Leonardo Marin 23 Marco Zanon

          Referee: Pierre Brousset (France)
          Assistant Referees: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia), Ludovic Cayre (France)
          TMO: Tual Trainini (France)

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

              Sititi

              I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

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              #247

              @Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

              Sititi

              I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

              Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

              They fluked that one imo

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                So Razor is just thick as fuck eh. That's a shame.
                I like the idea of playing the core of the top team and making minor changes to fit new guys into the pattern and see what they can do. But his top team is badly wrong at 10 and he's not giving the new guys a chance unless injury forces his hand.

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                  Thoughts Havili would get in the reserves. Like you guys very miffed at the non selection of Love.

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                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                    @Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

                    @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

                    Sititi

                    I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

                    Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

                    They fluked that one imo

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:

                    @Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

                    @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

                    Sititi

                    I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

                    Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

                    They fluked that one imo

                    Yeah that's what I meant!

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                      @Bovidae
                      Yep. I'm going.
                      Wind and snow in the high country.
                      Needs must, a warm-up pint of IPA at Murpys.

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                      Bovidae
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                      @maroon Some of my rugby stuff might still be on display at the Six Nations pub.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        So conservative he could be called Republican Razor

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        So conservative he could be called Republican Razor

                        A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

                          So conservative he could be called Republican Razor

                          A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.

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                          @Bovidae said in Italy v All Blacks:

                          @KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

                          So conservative he could be called Republican Razor

                          A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.

                          Rasnus is playing Chess

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                          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                            @Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            Sititi

                            I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

                            Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

                            They fluked that one imo

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                            @kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            @Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            Sititi

                            I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

                            Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

                            They fluked that one imo

                            Like, credit for picking Sititi and Tosi in the first place but yeah, if it weren't for injury, they probably would have only played against Japan if Blackadder and Newell stayed fit.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @Landers92 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              @frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              I would have liked to have seen Bell, Holland etc. get a game, but other than it being nice for them and their families, I am not sure it proves anything, because of the level of opposition, and the fact the next test is 9 months after this

                              And playing your near full strength squad does?

                              ALL BLACKS: v ITALY 2004 EOYT
                              S. Taumoepeau
                              A. D. Oliver
                              C. J. Hayman
                              C. R. Jack
                              N. M. C. Maxwell
                              J. Collins
                              R. H. McCaw
                              M. M. Tuiali'i
                              B. T. Kelleher
                              D. W. Carter
                              J. T. Rokocoko
                              J. F. Umaga (C)
                              C. G. Smith
                              R. L. Gear
                              J. M. Muliaina

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              @Landers92 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              @frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              I would have liked to have seen Bell, Holland etc. get a game, but other than it being nice for them and their families, I am not sure it proves anything, because of the level of opposition, and the fact the next test is 9 months after this

                              And playing your near full strength squad does?

                              ALL BLACKS: v ITALY 2004 EOYT
                              S. Taumoepeau
                              A. D. Oliver
                              C. J. Hayman
                              C. R. Jack
                              N. M. C. Maxwell
                              J. Collins
                              R. H. McCaw
                              M. M. Tuiali'i
                              B. T. Kelleher
                              D. W. Carter
                              J. T. Rokocoko
                              J. F. Umaga (C)
                              C. G. Smith
                              R. L. Gear
                              J. M. Muliaina

                              Totally different circumstances. Italy was the first game of the NH tour, the AB's hadn't played for 3 months and Ted made 9 changes for the next game against Wales.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                @Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                @Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                Sititi

                                I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.

                                Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him

                                They fluked that one imo

                                Yeah that's what I meant!

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                                @Bones What time zone are you in at the mo?

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                                  @Bones What time zone are you in at the mo?

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                                  Bones
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                                  @pakman said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                  @Bones What time zone are you in at the mo?

                                  I usually ask for the deposit first.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @pakman said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                    @Bones What time zone are you in at the mo?

                                    I usually ask for the deposit first.

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                                    @Bones I'm just back in UK from NZ with jetlag and you were posting at 4 am!

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.

                                      On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?

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                                      @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                      I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.

                                      On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?

                                      Last time we almost put a ton on them, how the fuck do they deserve our respect?

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                                      • P pakman

                                        @Bones I'm just back in UK from NZ with jetlag and you were posting at 4 am!

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                                        @pakman said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                        @Bones I'm just back in UK from NZ with jetlag and you were posting at 4 am!

                                        Because someone paid their deposit!

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                                          @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.

                                          On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?

                                          Last time we almost put a ton on them, how the fuck do they deserve our respect?

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                                          sparky
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                                          #261

                                          @Machpants They drew with France in France earlier this year and we could only manage a loss away against the same country. Their other results in 2024 are mostly not bad.

                                          https://www.flashscore.com/team/italy/dY0G5w4R/results/

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