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Italy v All Blacks

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    akan004
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    We lack ball carriers across the park that can bend the line consistently. You need that against fast line speed. We will struggle until we can address this issue.

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      I dont think Razor brought through enough new talent considering he had 14 matches.

      Too conservative at the selection table.

      He made me double down on players I came into the season already sick of.

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        Halfback
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        Anybody know where we can get a couple of rapid, young, defensively reliable and skilled under the high ball wingers?

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          I don't think I've seen a player as frustrating as BB, maybe ever?

          One moment he does something incredibly stupid, the next something brilliant.

          He's like a toxic girlfriend.

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            Anybody know where we can get a couple of rapid, young, defensively reliable and skilled under the high ball wingers?

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            sparky
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            @Halfback James Lowe?

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              Cam Roigard has outscored Rieko Ioane 7 tries to 3 since he made his debut and he was injured most of this year.

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                Will Jordan MOTM - I laughed, that was brilliant

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                  Poorest AB performance I have ever seen, even poorer than the home defeats against Argentina. Positive ? The win. The whole backline was a mess, from 9 to 15. Best NZ players : Sititi (MotM for me), Aumua and maybe De Groot for his scrummaging.

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                    Cam Roigard has outscored Rieko Ioane 7 tries to 3 since he made his debut and he was injured most of this year.

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                    @Jet said in Italy v All Blacks:

                    Cam Roigard has outscored Rieko Ioane 7 tries to 3 since he made his debut and he was injured most of this year.

                    He was pretty poor apart from that try in fairness, but yes, he knows how to find the tryline.

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                      @Jet said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      Cam Roigard has outscored Rieko Ioane 7 tries to 3 since he made his debut and he was injured most of this year.

                      He was pretty poor apart from that try in fairness, but yes, he knows how to find the tryline.

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                      @African-Monkey said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      @Jet said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      Cam Roigard has outscored Rieko Ioane 7 tries to 3 since he made his debut and he was injured most of this year.

                      He was pretty poor apart from that try in fairness, but yes, he knows how to find the tryline.

                      his pass looked slow today. Tremendous player, but man I miss Smith

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                        BB's last touch in tests is a try?

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                        @booboo said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        BB's last touch in tests is a try?

                        I do t think so. He is the incumbent 10

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                          Can't believe I went through the ignominy of walking in the door of a bar named "The Kangaroo & Kiwi" to watch that shit.

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                            Machpants
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                            Flush the dunny. Again. The toilets been pretty busy last 7 or so years

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                              Can't believe I went through the ignominy of walking in the door of a bar named "The Kangaroo & Kiwi" to watch that shit.

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                              nostrildamus
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                              @Kruse said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              Can't believe I went through the ignominy of walking in the door of a bar named "The Kangaroo & Kiwi" to watch that shit.

                              with any luck you won't remember walking out.
                              When a pub is called Kangaroo or Kiwi I immediately think of the warning signs when an Indian restaurant is called "Taj Mahal" - big warning sign!

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                                BerniesCorner
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                                Backline not good

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                                  The forwards are ok. The backs are still a mess. I like the way they have moved to constant 2nd man plays to change the point of attack. That combination between forwards and backs looks good - though try for France that cost us the game indicates it’s not without risk.

                                  Not so much:

                                  • Reiko on the crash - the ball goes to ground maybe 75% of the time?
                                  • Midfield - would love to see our midfield do what Sititi does, stand players up, take a soft shoulder and unload to supporting player. Tactics, skill, execution….you would have to say that we offered very little here this year.
                                  • Short kicking game - use less because most of the time it gives the ball away. Stop selecting BB at 1st as he can’t help himself.
                                  • Wingers - Clarke offers power and aerial skill, both Telea and Reece haven’t proved as effective at international level with their elusiveness maybe not being as effective as sheer pace we have seen against us.
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                                    Backline not good

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                                    @BerniesCorner Reiko isn't the answer at 13, never has been. We know he offers little variation in attack, and more importantly the opposition know that too.

                                    He's extremely limited.

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                                      @BerniesCorner Reiko isn't the answer at 13, never has been. We know he offers little variation in attack, and more importantly the opposition know that too.

                                      He's extremely limited.

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                                      @Halfback I'd have him on the wing.

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                                        @Halfback I'd have him on the wing.

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                                        @BerniesCorner Does he still have the pace? Cynical me thinks he moved infield to prolong his career - fine, but he hasn't added any other weapons to him game. Opposition know all they need to do is shut him down and make their tackles, there's no through kicks or offloads coming from him.

                                        Jordie needs to adapt too, it's like he read journalist praise about his crash ball all those years ago and thought "Yeah that's all I'll do from now on"

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                                          @Halfback I'd have him on the wing.

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                                          @BerniesCorner said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          @Halfback I'd have him on the wing.

                                          trouble is, as I recall, he was an 11. Clarke doesn't really deserve to lose that spot on what I have seen.
                                          14 however looks open (depending on Jordan I guess).

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